I’ve done all I can here
TV, Newspaper, Podcast, YouTube
Time has come to throw in my towel
I would have done studies but I waited months for a reply from Brigham after contacting Allen and the FMRI dept
I plan to end my agony imminently
Keep up the fight and belief for me guys !
Please don’t! I know getting to the study isn’t easy and this is a living hell. You have been a source of inspiration to many of us. Please hang in there!
DON’T DO IT! Now is most definitely NOT THE TIME to do anything like this. The studies in the works have a very real chance of leading to an eminent treatment! We could realistically be out of this shitter within 1-2 years. DO NOT DO ANYTHING THAT CAN’T BE UNDONE. We can beat this, and come out stronger. BELIEVE
Great comments guys via PM I mean it
But this is not for attention, yet I say that in the next 48-68 I will be in peace.
Unlike any other PFS victim like randy or Daniel Stewart who went without warning
I here state I’m done
I’m 17 months post drug now and my condition worsens
Only this weekend I had Ben King stay for the weekend and I spoke with John Santmann tonight too
I’m done and want to wish up all well
It won’t be in the next 24 hours but thereafter. X
My mother in-law can be contacted via my website as I will redirect my website messages
Why would those meetings with John and Randy bring you to this conclusion?
Please Paul dont do it.
Once the studies come out there may well be a cure/treatment.
You have been an inspirational to us all.
Please dont give up now.
This guy is publicly known to the people here, someone needs to call the police in his area and say he is going to commit suicide, this isn’t right
Don’t do it Paul.
Think about how devestated your whole family would be when the medical community
figure this out and you’re not around to reap your rewards.
The studies will be done soon.
Stay strong and know that your time will come soon.
Don’t do it. We all need you to keep fighting.
Paul hang in there, we all know what you’re going through but taking this kind of action is not the way forward. Collectively we are making progress and we need you to continue to help us in this fight. Stay strong, you will get through this. If you’re having a rough night try and focus on other things… go for a walk, watch a movie, anything… take a break from the site.
Tomorrow’s a new day, do not give up on yourself, your family or friends… we’ve all been there and together we can get through this.
Yea we have all been to this point. Now is not the time to give up. Even if you need to take an antidepressant to get you through this challenge. Look at it like a disease. Forget that a drug caused it. If you had been diagnosed with a disease like cancer, MS, or something else a person must face this and hang on. There are millions of gravely ill people on earth who find some peace with knowing they cant control it and that things are the way they are for now. With us, we have the possibility of beating this with the new research. There comes a point when we have to surrender to illness and put things we cant control out of our hands. I recommend this book. It literally changed my outlook and helped me to cope with this illness of ours. amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B2I2HF … ot_redir=1
You must take the anger out of the equation for a while. I am sick. This is how things are right now. There is research umder way. Things may get better. I cant know for sure but I accept that this is the way things are. I CHOOSE not to end my life and shortchange myself should a treatment, cure, or just improvements come in the future. Also I choose to not let this drug take my life and further harm my family. These are my thoughts when suicide becomes a real contemplation. We will beat this together my friend. We NEED YOU!
Paul, you mentioned that your father committed suicide. You’ve managed to deal with that part of your history before that situation, and you even chose a profession that is some sort of father figure incarnation. Now you are in a bad spot and we need to deter you from doing something irremediable, but you should really seek counselling to try to make peace with that event of your history. Am I wrong or your father committed suicide before you were born? If you were to kill yourself you would do exactly the same thing your father did in relation to the baby that is to be born. It’s probably not pure coincidence. It is Propecia that put you in that situation, but I believe the drug puts you in a state where you are completely unprotected from emotions and feelings that you would normally be able to deal with. It makes me think about the impulses mentioned by some guys to harm themselves. It’s as if something that is normally kept at bay by the normal self had been set loose with the mental collapse.
I’m going to tell you a story and I hope it makes you reconsider this idea. Some guy kills his two children and tries to commit suicide, but he survives. Apparently, his wife was having an affair with a colleague or a friend of them. In the light of the latter, you would think it was kind of a vengeance against his wife to kill the children because he could have just killed himself. Now, here’s the twist to the story. I was listening to the news and the journalist who was covering the case in court mentioned that he wasn’t on any medication, except one that he was taking for hair loss. He didn’t say finasteride, but in the context, you could imagine he was talking about a pill, not minoxidil or some anti hair loss shampoo. The journalist didn’t think he was saying something important, but knowing that, you can imagine what happened. So, he must have taken finasteride, became more or less impotent and his wife had the affair, which led to the infanticide. Now, is it finasteride that made him do what he did? I think you can’t put it only on the count of the mental collapse caused by finasteride. I think it must have had something to do with the relation he had to his self-image (he was a doctor), maybe with some unresolved psychological conflict.
Sorry if it seems that I derail from the important matter, but I just wanted to say that I believe there is something more for you than just the wreck brought about by finasteride in this idea of killing yourself and you should try to seek professional help with someone who can talk with you about the feelings that situation must have brought up, not just someone who will prescribe you pills. Maybe you could also talk with family members to try to understand better what happened with your father. Now, what you are thinking about doing is really like an acting-out about something from your life’s history you never really assimilated.
Think about the kid that is coming. You can’t do that to him. In a way, you have to give him what your father, for some reason that was probably as bad as fin, wasn’t able to give you.
Thrust me, finasteride hasn’t been easy on me and I managed to keep suicide at bay in very critical situations, and I even had the episodes of almost uncontrollable suicidal impulses. But I still believe life is the most beautiful and sacred thing.
Tigershull- stop the dumb threats of killing yourself. This condition is not permanent and you will improve, especially after the two year mark. I had sex 8 times this weekend, just a year ago porn couldn’t even arouse me, all my symptoms are disappearing.
You need to get a grip, I’ve tried to help you but I give up
Ok sorry to be harsh, I don’t know how to say this in so many ways but it’s not permanent, there is NO permanent nerve damage etc, do what Mew said , go for a walk, take a break from the forum, you’re all wrapped up in this crap now, stress is our enemeny.
Give yourself 2-3 years, try and relax, all of you for damn sake!! Try to relax, and focus on small things and slowly making improvements. Do it and I guarantee you will do backflips of happiness that you didn’t end your life now
I will hang in there for a while longer
GOOD! Don’t let this fucking drug beat you. You are stronger, and you will be yourself again soon. We will win, and we will burn Merck to the fucking ground in the process. STAY STRONG, BROTHER
Out of all the poss on this thread I question yours the most Finatruth
Congratulations on having sex 8 times this weekend, why are you still here if you have recovered so sufficiently?
Me and you are not identical and I’m sick of you telling me things are not permanent
My penis is getting smaller by the day as each night and morning passes with no erections
I still get zero nocturnal and zero morning wood
My skin is paper thin, my grip is pathetically weak, I still take anti depressants and my mental state is still fucked and I give serious consideration to ending my life daily so it pisses me of when you say that in the next 1-2 years I’ll be back to normal or I’ll have made big improvements, that’s just simply not true
I’m 17 months off now and things are still as they were months ago and if anything, my sexual state is worse! More shrunken, less feeling in my penis, my dry skin is still present as is my groin itch which drives me crazy on a daily basis, Id prefer it if you don’t judge me as the same as you, we all have varying degrees of PFS and mine is fucking horrendous
As far as we know it could be like comparing different severities of cancer. Some are mild, some are not. Let’s not assume others are in the same place as we are.
I think Finatruth tolerated the drug alot better than most people. He said he only got sides when he came off it.
When I was on fin I was totally f**ked from physical and mental sides.
Wow you guys don’t listen at all do you. I had horrible symptoms!! I was a zombie, tiny frozen penis, cold skin, low body temp, ear ringing, thin legs and arms, couldn’t look at girls, thin skin etc. I am recovering slowly.
When I first joined this forum there were lots of posts of people feeling better, trying new things, trying to understand their bodies.
Now the majority of this forum is a bitch fest, I give up, the problem with most of you is you would rather differentiate yourself and criticize someone for recovering and getting better and better than try to figure out why that may be happening. Therein lies the problem.
I genuinely care about all of you, this is a fucking horrendous syndrome and affliction to have but if just one person improves that means you can too. I didn’t believe john Coleman or Chi, but it’s true, you can get better!! I didn’t have mild symptoms, I was completely fucked!!! And if I’m saying just one year ago I could barely get aroused and now I had sex 8 times this weekend therein lies the hope for anyone.
I never understood why so many people dropped off this site after a few years, or didn’t answer on how thy were doing but I am getting it now. The negativity is so pervasive.
I thought myself, chi, and others would serve as inspiration to all of you but if that’s not want you want I can give you my pitty, sadness, and negativity. If that’s what you really want to hear I will do that for you