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#21

Finatruth, I think people are trying to tell you that your recovery progress isn’t necessarily the typical progress made by the average PFS sufferer.

Maybe it’s true what you said about all of us being able to recover. I hope you are right. A lot of us seem to be “stuck” though; no real improvements for a long time. Maybe we need some medicinal help to push our bodies into recovery, and hopefully the studies can help us with that.

It’s great that you are experiencing all these improvements, but if your progress was typical, wouldn’t we see a bunch more recoveries stating, “All it took was time!”???

#22

Dont you know what destroyed you paul? Even if there is %1 chance for cure, its worth to live. Im as bad as you, i know its a hell. I dont want to think like " if paul didnt kill himself he would be cured now" in future…
Give yourself at least 2-3 more years.

#23

hi Paul,

im glad you didnt kill yourself. I watched you videos too and you look fantastic. I dont have to worry about your face thats for sure. I believe that we can recover sexually and mentally too, once science finds a cure.

#24

Notna, i think we will cure completely or not at all. Everything or nothing. Lets focus on everything.

#25

I’m not delusional enough to think a cure will ever be found

These studies are aimed at trying to establish how and why PFS exists not find a cure

There will be no cure in our lifetime

All we can hope for is with time our bodies can heal but for me I think mine has incurred too much damage from this poison

#26

I agree this drug has ruined us, there will be no cure. We may find out what happened but we are destroyed by it. There is no chance to live a normal life, or feel good, or enjoy sex etc. Merck should pay for what they have done to all of us

#27

You don’t think Merck should be held accountable for what their drugs do to people?

#28

No, I said that Merck should pay for what has happened, they will end up paying through the civil legal system

#29

lol ! in your dream. They have strong legal advisors. you will be lucky if they pay you a single cent.

#30

At this point what would any of us do with money. We need a treatment or a fix. Money isn’t going to help us feel better. We all lost something priceless.

#31

I think finatruth is a little sarcastic here. He has hope…

#32

I just asked because it was obvious you were being sarcastic in that post.

I think Merck will eventually have to pay something…it just won’t be anything that disrupts their culture of creating and selling poison.

#33

I have to agree with Finatruth. With time improvements are possible. I was 100% impotent the first couple weeks. I can now get and maintain an erection for sex. The sensation is in flux. I also was a zombie. Got like 2 hours of sleep in the first week. I can now sometimes pull off 3-4 hours of sleep without sleep aids. I had really bad memory also, This has improved. I have a lot less anxiety. Dryness improved slightly. I still have a shit ton of issues but if I had no improvements id have jumped off a bridge already.

#34

I also think this site has become a “bitch fest” because very few things people have tried to get better have really worked. When you are suffering and all you got to look for hope are studies that are really just in their beginning stage it’s easy to get frustrated.

#35

I feel your pain man. I am glad you are staying with us.

Honestly I feel like at this point you are in a better spot than last week (maybe not physically) because now you have nothing to lose. You want to die anyways so you might as well spend whatever it takes, do whatever it takes, and try anything available to make your symptoms and life better.

I’ve been in your position and I know its not easy, but being at rock bottom leaves you nowhere to go but up. Who cares if an extra hormone test is going to cost you $500, who cares if you have to quit your job to take some time to yourself, who cares if TRT is your last resort. All of these options are better than death, and with each try you will learn what helps and what doesn’t.

That is my viewpoint now. A few days ago I wanted to kill myself (this has happened on and off for months). I am not going to let this win. I am going to take every test I need, if my Dr. won’t send a requisition, fuck him I’ll find a new one. I am going to spend time researching, and when I am not researching I am going to do my best to enjoy life, even though it may not be as good as it once was for me.

What is your favorite food? Pizza? Cake? Steak? Whatever it is go and get one right now and tell me, despite all this finasteride propecia bullshit that it doesn’t taste fantastic. Well you can’t have it if you are dead.

Life may suck compared to our pre-finasteride days, but at least we can walk and talk, some people don’t have that. Some people never need to even worry about having a functioning penis because they are paralyzed from the waist down. Sure our situation sucks compared to healthy average people but who is average anyways, everyone has problems, before propecia we all had hairloss and we thought it was the worste thing ever, well we were wrong. Now we have this and we think its the worste thing ever, and I guarantee you we are wrong.

I am sorry if I am coming off like a douche and overly positive I just am sick of wanting to kill myself and honestly I am done with it. You seem like you are in a similar situation (albeit you’ve been suffering longer), so I just wanted to share with you my plan of attack.

Do whatever it takes, make your own theories, do research (as I am sure you have already done) and get checked and tested, experiment. If we want to kill ourselves we have absolutely nothing to lose and we can only benefit. And if a cure comes with the studies, that is just a bonus.

Anyways sorry for my ramble. I wish you all the best and feel free to pm me any time if you want some more annoying positive bullshit (that is if i can manage to keep my hipocritical ass out of depression lol).

Cheers,

Brad

#36

Agreed. I think the bitching is the least of the worries for this site. The close-minded opinions, lack of empathy, and lack of participation in the studies is much more troublesome.

Oh, and the people who think PFS is a walk in the park, or just limp dicks and soft bodies, are showing real ignorance regarding what PFS can really do to a person.

#37

i´m 69 months off propecia and i´m recovering!

the early years are worse, improves after a few years and you can enjoy life again. Be strong.

#38

Can you describe your recovery process?

#39

And you had shrinkage that your recovering from too and loss of night time erections and they came back?

#40

the first recovery was testosterone. even after several attempts with tamoxifen(1-2months) and andractim(6months), My testosterone has fully recovered after a few months. my physical strength and muscle gain were very visible. and also fat lost.

I currently can not take MACA because my aggression is so high that I fight with everyone.

the second recovery was sleep. After few days fasting, weeks late my sleep improves. Now i really rest and i´m able to work in my job great.

excitement and enthusiasm for life was third recovery.

libido had a good recovery, but still not normal.