Dude, why do I give a shit what you think or believe? I have been posting and fighting this for 6 months, hormones are powerful and I was a party animal. Propionate brought me back, but not like this, I seriously doubt I am going to be hanging around here much longer and proving things to some dude on the internet, so don't believe me, I don't care. Time to move on with my life, but I know this is hell, so I do wish you the best.
I wish I had not become so attached to this forum and the people here, it will make it difficult to say goodbye. I am in contact with 2 posters of this forum I will ensure go on suspension so they can get better and post if they want.Of course you will soon leave. The protocol wont work when under scrutiny. So you have to leave before the shit hits the fan. Lol.
Its not me who you have to prove anything to. ITS THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD. You cant honor yourself with having cured PFS without prove. Dont you get it???
With your ego, if you were convinced it would work, you would hang around until the last guy has successfully tested the protocol and cured PFS. An entire community would be treating you like a rock star. If you were certain you would stay and test it out. But deep down you know that you are full of shit. Thats why you are already announcing your retirement from this forum.
By the way, not sure if I mentioned that I got 10 10 ml bottles for like $250, enough to last a year, not bad! What I ordered from the Internet arrived before my script, but a yearās supply for $250 isnāt bad.
PVDL, anyone who has an ounce of sanity would never post their reversal here. They will only be accused of never having pfs or people like you demanding more āproof.ā Countless people have told me they do not wish to post here and I donāt blame them, im sure Lukas and SG will though. I managed to get one of the worldās foremost experts in neuroendocrinology to prescribe my protocol, you insulted him and attacked me, itās going to be even worse for others.
Though, I predict in one year this entire forum will be reversed after people do start coming forward. What I will do though, is go and get my blood tested so that dr Jacobs can see my dht skyrocketed, it was low on the last test, thatās proof enough for him. As for staying behind and making sure enough proof is here to convince YOU to go on this protocol, thatās doctor Jacobās job. I donāt get paid for this and I have lost enough time and spent enough money on this. In the end dr Jacobs will get the credit for this and Iāll lose more time and money.
You saw, Frustrated even denied these are my theories and that I even have pfs, this forum is a lose/lose situation. Itās pointless. Go on and continue your insults and attacks and see how many people you convince to post their reversal story here lol
Lets stop the shame game JQD.
Yes I am pissed when someone comes here, claims victory, and demands statues built for him, without providing an ounce of prove for his theories. That is bordering on insanity.
I am not demeaning you by saying that you are full of shit if you claim victory and in the same breath declare that you wont prove out your theory.
Everyone would say somebody who claims victory without prove is full of shit. Thats science. Sry to break it to you. That has nothing to do with me attacking you. Stop being hysterical about it.
If you want to declare victory, deliver prove. If you dont want to deliver prove, dont declare victory.
And I dont for one second believe that patients who YOU cured with your protocol will NOT post here if you ask them to. Thats just a mirage because you dont want to be held accountable. You dont want to deliver prove because you are affraid the protocol wont work.
The protocol worked for me, and so far people using variations of my protocols based on my theories have posted improvement here. It is irrelevant to me what you think, people have asked you to stop and you continue your assaults when 2 patients of dr Jacobs are here and have posted to you it takes time to get on this. Dude you need to chill out, seriously you are just making this a place no one would want to post to. 99% of my messages are from people who do not want to post here. I will say that one of the people I am helping will post for sure, as for worrying about what you think of what this forum thinks, thatās ridiculous. I have worked my ass off for months trying different drugs, spending a fortune, experimenting, spending $1500 with dr Jacobs just to share my knowledge with him after finding out he didnāt have a working protocol. I have spent hours on the phone helping people here, answering messages. Who are you? Some lazy armchair judge with the nerve to sit there having contributed nothing to this and demand answers out of me? You are nothing, you have contributed nothing, I have done this all, your view of me is irrelevant, it does not matter. Posting here and arguing with nasty people like you is exhausting, no one in their right mind would post here. Lukas and SG, when you reverse this, be prepared to go through the same hell I have, so make your decision and think it over. It can be very hurtful to be attacked as I have been here, it can weigh heavily on you. I really advise anyone who has been through the stress of pfs and reversed it to consider your emotional condition before posting here. Sometimes itās best to just move on, enough knowledge is here, but I wonāt lie, the constant attacks and uphill battle I fought here really hurt my recovery. Even now I was so happy I reversed this only to be attacked by this guy, so think deeply before you do. Itās harder to say goodbye than you think, but I have to make that decision soon to move on with my life for my emotional health. I defeated this, I did more work than anyone, now I have to focus on myself. I donāt know why this forum is like this, but itās sad. The good news is, all you need to recover from this is here. Iām sure eventually someone will post.
The fact is numerous people told you they will post here and it will take months, and you act like you are some authority and people should post faster? You do nothing here but waste space on this thread.
This is the last time I will read or respond to your posts, Iām adding you to my block list.
Anyway, I had promised myself I would reverse this before Xmas and I did, I pushed away all my friends and family. I had expected to start my life over when this was over, time to focus on that. Iāll remain behind for a little bit to make sure everyone know about testosterone suspension.
The dose was 20mg of testosterone suspension, till you need more, daily most likely, about 1mg of arimidex a day should be all anyone needs, then let time heal your system. Some of you may require a couple weeks or a few weeks to recover, but everyone will, that im sure of.
Some may require more AI, but with the results I had, with how bad off I was before, itās hard to believe it wonāt easily fix everyone.
Fuck you. Who the hell are you to tell anyone what they can and canāt say. What they should or shouldnāt do.
So far, you and your faggot friends have contributed jack-fucking-crap to this thread.
You demand āproofā but wonāt throw your hat in the ring. You insist on more guys trialing the method, but you yourself wonāt lift a finger because youāre a PUSSY BITCH. OTOH, you will make it point to deride, attack, and rehash the same point over and over, cause youāre this threads self appointed hero.
Run along and fuck off now, you stupid fuck. Some of us are actually trying to get better.
JQD man, that does sound really promising (?! suspensionās reacting exactly as you expected?? daaamn) but I def want to see how the next week plays out with Suspension. If thereās no speedbumbs or anything on the wayā¦ this could be a massive addition to PFS arsenal.
Also pvdl & Frutrated, how about we stop this. You guys arenāt being rational here, either. Letās get to the bottom of this right now.
From your perspective: We all can see that JQD posts non-stop (hey, who we are to judge?). We know he has ābig egoā. We know he is declaring victory before hitting the finish line. He can be quite rash with his conclusions. Of course there is a possibility that this isnāt the silver bullet, that people get ātheir hopes up for nothingā. You might disagree on the theories side.
ffs We GET it alright?
BUT this guy got the balls and money to DO something to his symptons. Heās run a lot of people to get behind this protocol (and thatās A LOT, to even drive people to TRY stuff in their PFS state). The sheer amount of ENTHUASISM and determination and resources to push into THIS.
I got a LOT of respect to that. This is empirical data and itās SUPER valuable to me, and to lot of guys I know as well. Itās something, not nothing. Itās one protocol tested out, hopefully properly (as JQD has mercifully have tried to ensure. He has no obligation to any PFSāer to do so either so Iām pr glad for that).
A lot of people in PFS desperation need that confidence and hope boos, that possibility that āmaybe this protocol is the one for meā¦ā - Itās the difference to either try or NOT try improve their situation. They are humans! Count how many people are even right now writing elsewhere in this forum that they are at the end of their wits and ready to end it all, because there is nothing to do to their symptons (which is not true, period), to their bleak hopeless future before them (unfortunately deepening their symptons with accumulated stress and worry - even med science knows that mind treats stress from thoughts as bodyās stress).
Heās got integrity in my eyes - you guys donāt. I donāt see you guys providing any value to the community with this supposedly scientific theorizing and personal attacks.
I know your game man: anybody can see that you can bait JQD time and time again into defending himself. Thatās fucking brutal, how can you guys can claim to be better than him? I got zero fucking respect for that and here is the reason why.
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A lot of PFS connections outright avoid posting in this forum because of that negativity and unproductivity. Two persons reported early recovery directly to me because they werenāt willing to go through the shredder of PFS negativity and questioning of integrity. Weāll see how theyāre story plays out in time but you knowā¦ I wouldnāt wonder if they never posted the final results to these forums - itās too hard to deal with you assholes giving a run for their money because āthey canāt be totally sure that the recovery is acclaimed on the stuff they didā or āif itās a PERMAMENT recovery (lol)ā.
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Now, I can control my PFS symptons fairly well by running dopamine or adrenal fatigue supplements, water fasting, FMTā¦ Especially latter three are something you guys canāt accept because itās not āwidely provenā or āquack medicineā (or they were, untilā¦ somebody with authority said āthis is ok nowā so NOW itās OKAY to do those protocols LOL āwe knew ALL ALONG this is MEDICALā). Most of my improvements are literally on the experimental protocols and I know they work firsthand and to what symptons and what body systems within me. But I will not talk about them with you because āpearls before swinesā, you guys are not going to try them yourself.
Itās like spending DAYS in total hours to convince somebody that āguys check this water fasting out, you should try this, it will literally DESTROY your brainfog and fatigueā, and YOU are with arms folded, dragging me down with false hope that ājust maybe these guys are going to try itā¦ maybe theyāll help themselves, become activeā and after all those hours of empty talk and goddamn THEORIZING you put up some meek fucking excuse like āweeell~, i donāt knooww~ā¦ i think iāll just wait for my white knight in shining armourā¦ wait for studiesā¦ wait for somebody to show green light for this protocolā¦ maybe iāll just instead keep arguing on the internet with a fucking stranger~ā.
The secret to the misery with you guys is that you expect people to give your recovery in a silver platter - that the protocols have no risk at all, or that there is a scientific consensus behind them, or they have authority behind it and is ālegitā, or god forbit do some HARD WORK for your recoveryā¦ or just donāt dare any strange protocol due to risk of the UNKNOWN.. Is this the case for IHP, cdnuts, Chi, JN, god knows who else from the list of 40 or so reported recoveries in this forum? Reflect on this question within yourselves. Hint: do some hard work and catalogue the recoveries and youāll see the patterns emerge.
Guess what: there is an alternative thought around that the longer you prolong your condition, the more it causes permanent damage to your system. If, for example, the problem is within your bodyās capacity to eg use dolichol or DHT or glutathione, then all of your body will be deprived of that essential nutrient or hormone, eg DHT. Or the prolonged excess of estrogen causes massive free radicals. So what did you know: the wait it out - idea actually turned out to be just a tactic to constantly reduce your chances to recover, second. by. second.
- Also lastly! Letās do some maths. You spend 15 minutes or more to formulate your post. JQD spends probably the same or less but posts in rapid success.
I just spent an hour or so to formulate this post. Thatās an hour too much for you guys, as Iāve given up my hope for you to ever be productice and proactive with this, and Iām kind of sick of myself right now for giving in to my EMPATHY. Iām a human so what can I do!! Weak is the flesh.
At the end of the day, weāve wasted a lot of time in a day we could put into researching cures, or getting money for protocols or to donate to foundation. Or do mindfulness and get rid of that negativity and stress proactively to ensure a natural recovery. Or just patiently wait for peopleās reports to the protocol without judging shit. You could go any other route than this and not do wrong.
ps. As for anti-JQD side, this also means that pro-JQD side also has to cease the personal attacks and needless bickering. Remove the unneeded emotional garbage, focus on the essential, just do the thing and shut up. This your life mantra.
Thanks buddy. Please keep posting and ignore that useless fag.
Some people are just miserable, tireless fuckbags.
Good to read the update.
Thanks for your support guys, makes me feel better to read that after that fuck bag. Also, it is not like I just pulled this out of my ass, this protocol has evolved for 6 months, all in the same direction, targeting far and DHT, I have tried everything! I theorized suspension would work, been talking about it for months. I just never expected it to work SO WELL. I mean damn! It makes sense though, I just didnāt expect this, it is astonishing! Also, once the DHT is induced, it remains acting as the anti estrogen we are missing! Test levels drop low and so does estrogen, so we only need 5AR activity to reduce this shot quickly to DHT, then it lasts the day and fights off estrogen so we can reduce to dht the remaining test. It is brilliant, and everyone needs to try it before deciding to go on with PFS, itās cheap, itās just an injection, Dr Jacobs is prescribing it.
I am so excited I canāt sleep! I mean, I FEEL again, propionate had me able to live and function, to have sex and muscles and an ok mood, but this stuff, this stuff brought me back to before I had PFS, with one fucking shot! Yes, I will report and we will see how the week plays out, but hell, let me tell you, you can quickly forget PFS when you get to this state. I am going to make the 3 people I am working on go on this, at least 2 I know will. I am sure when they report back, that will start a domino effect, and we have 2 on here who are working with Dr Jacobs, so they will definitely post.
Just ditch the propionate and go on suspension!
Phew! Finally read the full 68 pages.
Iāll repeat the dull and just state how tiresome the ad hominem attacks are. I agree that constructive criticism is mighty helpful and when individuals are asking JQD respectfully to expand and elaborate on certain elements of the theories. The key word is āconstructiveā though.
I myself having a ādecentā knowledge of this area of endocrinology - read a lot on steroids as a teenager (although never tried them), went to the UKās top university for Sport & Exercise Science that requires same grades as med school and now have applied to study graduate medicine. So I have at least a rudimentary understanding of this area. JQDās theories are at least potentially biologically plausible from a theoretical standpoint although may be considered rough around the edges by some. They also have some anecdotal evidence of efficacy. I have chatted with individuals off the forum about āsomeā success on mono-AI treatment, we then have others having success with similar protocols elsewhere on the site (e.g. Legendary). Although not helpful in the grand scheme of things I can see why people donāt take the time to post-success stories due to said hyper-aggressive ad hominem attacks. I presume Iāll get labelled an arse-kisser for providing some modicum of respect for JQDās āexperimenting-adapting-repeatā method.
I discussed some of these theories with a surprisingly receptive Dr. in the UK (I know you love us over here JQD - buck tooth whiners and what not). Being in the UK, doctors are a lot more conservative, which I think is good but also bad. He is aware of PFS and he accepted my research on 'tane and 5ARI issues. I discussed the issue of complete genital insensitivity (Ken Doll Syndrome) and penile shrinkage and that possibly being linked with increased local conversion of T to E and this is could be causing the issues of sensitivity and shrinkage. So I suggested an AI may of use. He says it is theoretically possible, however being more conservative in the UK he wouldnāt prescribe it but he did lend āsomeā merit to the possibility.
JQD whatās your take on this? Iāve chatted with moonman too. Iāve recovered from my crippling anhedonia, my ED is improved and my libido too (MJ has been a godsend for me in those last two). However, the insensitivity and shrinkage are still there in full force. Iām 6ā1" at 180lbās with about 6% bodyfat. So my phenotypically it looks like Iām well androgenised with no signs of excess oestrogen, yet my D is telling me a different story. Is it plausible that my D and only my D is showing a case of excess oestrogen caused by alterations in 5ARā¦?
My total T is solid at like 770ng/dL, I know this is low by your standards but from papers Iāve seen Iām still above average for 18-25y/o individuals.
JQD,
do u feel that 10-20mg of Suspension is enough to rebuild or rejuvenate the things that were reduced in size
inside our bodies? also the penis. because I wonder if that dose of suspension can bring the prostate back to what it used to be.
I remember have erections and not only being hard but feeling it from the inside also.
so thatās what I ask about the nerves.
What do u think man?
We knew this day was coming JQD! Time for that induction into the PFS Hall of Fame. If you feel you picked up too much Test let the PerfectGent know, Iāll buy whatever you donāt want or need. So any thoughts on a final protocol? Iām going on a limb, but 10mg of Test Susp eod and keep some arimidex on hand. Maybe supplement with that calcium glucurate too? About to make my investment and just want to make sure I do it JQD style. Thanks again for piercing through the bullshit and immaturity.
the crazy funny thing is if he actually does fix us all he really DOES deserve a statue lol
I think so, I mean, one shot and PFS is gone? I donāt even believe my own posts lol. I have some good news though, 2 guys I am in contact with who are posters here are getting their hands on it and will be trying it in a few days. I will make sure they post, I need to make sure before I move on that this is known.
Yes, you can inject it 23g sub-q. I draw with an 18g and inject 23g sub-q. I normally always use 25g sub-q, but with test sus the smallest I can go without clogging is 23g.
PerfectGent, testosterone suspension, some arimidex and that's it, you can take Calcium D Glucarate, why not? but suspension induced so much DHT that I woke up today with a chiseled face no water retention, like I was on proviron. You can forget so quickly you have PFS when you reverse this, I BEG you all to get on suspension and at least try it.
ITS A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!!!
No signs of PFS, no symptoms, day 2, just injected it again, why not? The shit is so strong that it is even stronger than PFS. Suspension is SO androgenic that it overrides the conditions of PFS, it is the most androgenic steroid on the planet. In a normal guy they would be bouncing off walls, but in me I feel normal again! No constant need for an AI, I feel as though life has been breathed back into me.
You forget what this is likeā¦ Propionate allowed me to reverse most of PFS, but I spent all day and night battling estrogen dominance, it certainly was not the way I could live long term, that was why I kept looking for a better solution. I mean it was better than PFS! This though, Suspension? 1 fucking shot??? Itās hard for even me to believe, but before I move on I will make sure these 2 guys get on it.
Itās only a matter of time at this point, no waiting, just 1 shot, everyone should feel something! Maybe some guys will take a little longer to recover, but I have a hard to believing anyone wonāt feel something the first shot.
I haven't needed an AI On it man, 20mg and thats it, not subQ, intramuscular, subq will aromatize more, intramuscular, straight into your system and you are done.Yes, IM will give you a faster hit with possibly less aromatization. Also, with my test sus there is no PIP.
It has now been a week on test sus for cruising, and I have noticed the fowling.
- More energy, far more than prop
- More aggression, much more than prop - (this is a good aggression, more akin to motivation)
- More strength
- More stamina
- Water weight is slowly going down over all. After injection, there is a brief increase in water, but by the next day it is gone.
- Given that Iām recovered for the most part, I did not need has much test sus. I have changed dosing to 10mg eod. Every day was to powerful for me.
- Wellbeing has exploded
- More sebum (oily skin)
- Hair is thinner, can really notice it when washing it.
I donāt have any estrogenic sides except for water weight.
I will be doing my standard labs next week. Given from what I have seen, I expect my DHT to be elevated.
Wow, this is great news!