Sadly we had to cancel due to the death of a family member. However I will personally fly out there if the study is not filled soon. I cant believe I will have to fly across the atlantic because guys in the US are following homebrew and wont participate. The foundation could get 2 or 3 US guys to the study for the same cost.
PVDL we are trying both angles, just because we are treating pfs doesnāt mean we arenāt doing the studies, we are working on getting people to go. What you donāt understand is I was suicidal and I have reversed this, that canāt be ignored man. I am 6 months in and havenāt been able to get to this point ever for this long.
Day 4, test increased to 20mg of prop when I wake up, gel later in the day towards the night (incase estrogen surges later). I havenāt felt this great since pre pfs, no water retention, muscle size increased, male body scent is back, it has been 4 days of complete reversal. It is easy, a gel and an injection, I have required no AI. If this can be done this long, it can be done longer, most importantly my mood is great, I can experience joy and the flatness is gone. I had some flatness yesterday when my test was too low, I concluded 10mg may be too low a day, will continue to update.
Guys are too busy following homebrew to participate in studies.
I have to fly in from EAST GERMANY, because US guys cant get out of their basement (filled with DHT creams and other goodies that cost them 100s to 1000s of dollars).
[Size=4]To everyone (ESPECIALLY US GUYS) who wont sign up for BAYLOR. No wonder nobody is taking our condition seriously. After all, it cant be that bad if you are too lazy to sign up for a study. [/size]
I would sign up, but I donāt know if being on my treatment disqualifies me, and I finally have my life back, im not stopping. If it doesnāt disqualify me I will go to the study.
PVDL, we are actively working on this, letās all make an effort to fill up this study, there is no excuse for us not to. Treating this condition is our chosen path, but we must support the over all long term path, so letās fill up the study, letās really make an effort guys.
That escalated quickly! Hereās the thing, I want more than anything for the studies to figure something out, but I also have a life to live in the mean time. Who has the time or money to go participate in the study (mostly time if everything is paid for)? I joined PropeciaHelp.com because it gave me hope. Avenues to pursue in trying to find a treatment that worked for me. There are a decent amount of recoveries on this site. Where would they be if they sat around and waited for the studies to conclude? All the suggestions of what to do in the mean time are laughable at best. Iāll go get a raise right now so that I can give more money when I can barely get through the day as it is. Even as soon as I joined, my opening post was filled with people telling me how hopeless this all is. If you think that, great. Stay here! I will see everyone else over at SPFS.com. Iād rather try something than sit around. I hope the studies find enough people that they can finish. And that they get to the bottom of this. In the mean time, I will actively search for things that make me feel better. What else is someone with this supposed to do?
Doesnt have 1 fucking day (or at most 2)??? Really.
Complains that they are not finishing, but refuses to participate.
This guy must have fallen on his head when he was a baby.
This is the homebrew insanity carousel in action.
Screw Science. Long live homebrew.
After all? Who has the time for the studies. Fucking weasel, never ever complain about your dick not working again. [/size]
To clarify āhomebrewā vs āscience,ā I have a significant background in pharmacology and thus science, I may not have the best posting skills or personality on a forum. That being said, my protocol did not come out of my ass, it was the culmination of 7 months of experimentation, research, consulting with some of the best doctors in the world. I theorized and mapped pfs based on my experiences and all I have read. My final protocol is my final protocol, let me clarify, I stopped dht in an attempt to recover my own neuroesteroidal dht, I was unable to wait for the experiment to finish.
This is science, and my protocol is the most logical, it was dismissed as this condition became overcomicated as guys like Awor were using very high doses of hormones. The reason we only respond to low doses of hormones is because we are affecting neurosteroids (not over all hormones in the body). In many cases where guys have low test, we are also doing that. I have reversed this for 2 or 3 months, I just needed the final piece. I didnāt know the gel was so effective, it is unethical to perpetuate lies that this condition is untreatable.
The studies (which I fully support) will only further confirm the existence of this condition so even more doctors will treat this with hormones or androgen type drugs. No therapy or drug is coming out of the studies, we are too small a group and the problem not considered life threatening. Aids and Cancer is one thing, but despite what we may know, it is perceived as a sexual disorder by mainstream when mentioned.
We must fight the war in all fronts, however, with the final piece of my protocol working, we must all unite and begin extensive experiments. If they are not allowed here, letās all start migrating to solvepfs (where they are conducting experiments). We can cover more ground without the limitations of laws and regulations and red tape. Most importantly, the final piece to this puzzle for me was dht (which is illegal in the USA).
Sure, go to the studies, if you canāt afford it have the foundation pay, but for others, we must follow this path. We may all have this solved by the time the studies are done, they arenāt working on a therapy are they? So we are conducting our own studies into a therapy. I canāt accept pfs and live with it like PVDL wants. I understand PVDL that you are convinced im lying, but the fact is you are wrong. This condition is not that complicated to treat, we arenāt curing cancer, itās correcting imbalanced neuro steroids (and a pfs study confirms its neurosteroids).
So low doses work because we are fixing neurosteroids and thatās why this doesnāt show on blood tests and thatās why aiās are making guys feel better. Despite what Mew or anyone else think, my theories are a reality which is time and again being confirmed by real world experience. The doses are just different for different people. Some have conditions that are worse and we should work to help them rather than sit around talking about how evil merck is and suicide.
Did you know during the studies done on (ironically) finasteride, a significant number of the placebo group had lower dht simply because they thought they were taking a drug to lower dht. If you sit around here believing this condition is untreatable, it never will be. I refused to believe the dogma and lies, it was my ego that protected me, I am not easily swayed, and here I am, 6 months later reversed. Mew has his calling, I have mine, do not surrender to your own fears. If 100 body builders got pfs, a cure or treatment would come in 1 month or less, mark those words.
So that being said, I support the studies, but my path is a path of solving this, I didnāt drink the cool aide, why they are lying to us about not being responsive to hormones I donāt know. Maybe they believe it, im not sure, but if it were true de goldstein wouldnāt have such a big practice. Most guys with pfs respond to hrt and never make the link and we never hear from them.
You can sit around waiting for studies or sit around fighting this, the defeatism I found when I came to this forum was disgusting. Often when someone like me reverses pfs, it is stated that we never had it to begin with. A sad state of affairs, there is Pfs and then there is a psychological condition that develops from hanging out on this forum, im trying to change that. If I am silenced or banned, it will only confirm what im saying. If something doesnāt work, try something else, but I am on the path thatās going to help everyone, im sure of that.
Life is too short, 6 months was long enough for me, and I didnāt wait even a single day for anything, and it was worth it.