I really hope that turns out to be the case. For me I’ve never completely gone back to Pre-Fin size.
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i have a question.
masturbation help us or not?
i think is positive get erections as much as we can, but i heard other opinions
I think infrequent masturbation is key. Maybe once every couple of days. I crashed right after masturbating one night 3 times. Masturbation is very taxing on you. Chemicals are released and an electrical charge goes off in your brain. Since we are in a fragile state I don’t think it would wise to do it too much. When you masturbate you create scar tissue, all be it maybe very little if done not too rigorously. Since our penis’ have gone through (are going through) androgen deprevation its probably not a good idea to put too much stress on it.
really?
i don’t know, maybe if u do it very roughly …
I think is good have more erection for providing more blood in the tissues.
i don’t mean to rub hard, but only light manipulation
however is just an opinion
I don’t know about scar tissue but I agree with Boston332 principally. Masturbation is bad for us. I have a very long refractory period and any sexual activity causes and opposite reaction so my penis ends up shrinking and I get major fatigue.
Same here.
Any idea what helps the fatigue? This is affecting my productivity at work.
Stop masturbating or masturbate a bit and stop. I haven’t found anything that helps the crushing fatigue from climaxing. For me it’s getting worse as time goes on. I’ve had 3 orgasms in the last month and have really lost interest. It’s also because climaxing has gone from great pre-fin to a variation of one of the following:
Sometimes I feel slight pleasure before nerve pain brought on by climaxing
Sometimes I don’t feel anything and get a shrinking penis
Now climaxing is mostly unfomfortable and becoming moreso over time, like scratching fingernails on a chalkboard. It causes the whole feeling in my body for a long time afterwards, days-weeks before I recover to the pre-climax state.
Some things have helped at times but all have stopped working and now have a counter effect. A few moments of success followed by a longer period than before of suffering. An orgasm makes my muscles stiffer, weaker, and feeling older.
According to this you create scar tissue and they are talking about healthy non-Fin damaged penis’. library.ayurvediccure.com/over-masturbation/truth-about–masturbation.htm Would seem to me an androgen deprived penis is probably in a more fragile state.
Not saying you can’t masturbate. But a lube is probably a good idea.
i mean only get erections, not to cum
this for providing blood and mantain elasticity in the corpora cavernosa
however all of u think opposite 
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however i agree with u about “androgen deprived penis is probably in a more fragile state”
soft mast. is better
I was just reading an article on how the penis changes with age. No surprise, but alot of those age-related changes seem to have been brought on in me overnight, particularly the night i stopped taking finasteride/propecia.
I know this sounds like an episode of Star Trek (TOS), but has fin aged us in the sexual gonad dept?
Yes in my case. I feel prematurely aged as do many here.
Trying to rescue the shrinkage thread - many on here suffer but it appears some have had improvements in their flaccid size - including some of the posters on this thread. Any advice for the remaining shrinky dinks
i had some impro, but not recovered pre fin state
try get more erections without cum, it helps imao
did u get penile echodoppler?
My only thoughts on this is if we can someday figure what happened to us, treating that then possibly stem cell treatment. Like I’m sure alot of you with it the shrinkage thing causes me constant anxiety/depression.
A bit off topic but also my right testicle has shrunken up so much it is just a tiny wierd shaped mass of soft tissue.
Boston - I personally think its not stem cell reserach we need. There are times where flaccid size returns and for me testicles feel fuller and drop lower. It is a matter of getting of bodies into that area of balance vs. whatever negative loop their in right now. Seems strange to me that most get the bad shrinkage after quitting - some days I wish I stayed on fin vs. this new hell.
But others who were severly shrunken like Visionquest have regained their flaccid size and wih the return to size come improvements in well being and libido. I am desparate to learn why/how
if we have to wait stem cell, well , maybe the son of my son could see first result
Stem cell research is moving pretty quickly actually and goes back nearly a decade regarding rebuilding penile tissue. Of course things in vivo are a bit different than doing thing in vitro. There are placing now performing stem cell treatment for ED but I have no idea the degree of success they achieve. As everyone else, I hope one day however many years from now we figure out what happened and there is some type of treatment things return to their normal size/shape.
at what point is arrived the research ?
i heard “cure for cancer” since 80s, but we r in the 2011 and still waiting
so i’m not confident in the research speed
for if we get a solution when we are 75 yrs old, it sounds like a big prank for all of us
That’s somewhat apples to oranges. Hopefully the answer to this is easier than the answer for cancer even though there may be some things that are related. ie, both possibly caused by changes in environment and effecting gene expression.