In a life of apprehension and misery I literally live for posts like these!
Not professional but great to see an injection of comically crazy enthusiasm!
Crisler is a great man and he I am glad that he tries so hard to help us when other doctors laugh in our face, but why does he get himself involved in pissing contests with idiots? It reminds me of that expression “Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.”
George Bernard Shaw - I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig, you get dirty; and besides, the pig likes it.
Ha ha! Thanks, Monty. I never remembered this one, but it was a good one!! HAHA!
Anyone know where I can find Dr Crisiers “HPTA-restart protocol” ?
Its just 4 weeks of 20mg Clomid.
It’s around 5 years ago now that Dr Crisler was posting and looking into this topic. Has he moved on from it? Did he make any lasting findings?
I’d be really interested in this as well - was considering having a telephone consultation from the UK
Anyone have information as to how to get an appointment with Dr. crisler? I am having ED, no libido, no erection for about 2 weeks and i would like to see hime asap. Thanks
He’s a dead-end street, like most of them. This is the 21st century, most people are busy with their lives, and catching up on facebook and emails, and other sexy social events, they don’t really have time for us. Its probably going to be someone thats been affected with PFS that will find the cure for our misery.
I have an appointment with him on Thursday.
So what is the last finding? Is there at least a hint in what one should do? I am from Austria and am really thinking about flying to Michigan and visiting Dr. Crisler. Has he been able to help at least some of you guys?
He didn’t help me out. Don’t waste your money on that plane ticket.
I’ve helped myself out without any strong support from anti-aging medicine doctors.
Daily: 20 mg hydrocortisone broken up in 4 doses; 0.5 mg pramipexole in the morning, a Vitamin E pill, and an application of Andractim.
Once a week: 250 mg HCG and 80 mg testosterone enanthate (these are both injections).
I’ve seen Dr. Irwig, Dr. Crisler, and several other anti-aging doctors. Nobody knows how to treat this syndrome yet so unfortunately there is no set protocol on how to respond to us. If you show symptoms of low T, the doctor may put you on HCG, T, or both. In some cases they may try Clomid for several weeks. I’ve tried many protocols and eventually settled on the above. I’m still far from my true self, but my quality of life has greatly improved. Not saying that it will work for you as well, but if you’re really determined on any treatment, get basic testing done and supplement in areas where you note a deficiency.
Lol, I implore you my friend, don’t waste your money for a trip here, you’ll get ripped off big time. I live in Michigan and and have seen him myself. He’s a nice guy, but I’d say he’s helped only a handful of guys with PFS, myself not included. I’ve only counted 2 on this forum.
He doesn’t do anything special, or have any sort of protocols catered to you specifically, he has about 5 or 6 different protocols, which have gone unchanged for 4 or 5 years now, and hopes one of them stick. More often than not, it’s a dead end, and none do.
Hm ok, thank you for that info. I had hoped there was at least one doc that knew what is going on…
I flew across the other side of the world to see the guy and he is nothing but a fraud, don’t waste your time or money
Don’t waste your money, I found him to be arrogant and patronizing. He doesn’t listen and then comes out with BS reasons why this or that didn’t work in the past. He treated the idea of PFS like it was some straight up hormone problem that could be fixed with a few drops of the old man juice. Having had experience of hormones in the past I didn’t buy into what he was saying. He’s a great voice for the male TRT community but we are a long fucking way from those guys who get better with a simple fix of T and estrogen blockers.
I have a similar sentiment about him. He was very arrogant, and quick to recommend TRT.
In hindsight i wish I had tried TRT however. Now almost 10 years later I still have never tried it. I wished I had. I don’t think it can make anything worse, only better. If any of my ideas are correct regarding the prostate being part responsible, a good dose of TRT for a few months could possibly help the prostate pump itself up and rehab, idk…
But still, think it def coulda been worth a try. 3-4 different uros suggested I try it. I should have! It won’t hurt you if you take it for a few months. Might help you get over the hump!
Crisler is an under qualified opportunist and I say that without trying to incite any heated debate.
There are very few doctors truly interested in PFS and even fewer with the qualification to bring anything to the table.
I think it’s unfair to call him a fraud or an opportunist. In general, nobody cares about our situation ! For once, if someone is interested in the subject, no matter what he does can only help us move forward.
I think it’s better to have everyone go through one (or just a few) specialist rather than all over the place. Of course he doesn’t have a treatment or protocol. Nobody does. But with time, his expertise will develop and he should start to see patterns develop. And moreover, having an « expert » in the domain can only help promote this syndrome.
Too many lives have been wasted. My feels like it’s ended. Seems like a dead end road.
Let’s encourage doctors who agree to work with us.