So over the last 5 years I have done so many experiments on myself. I have tried almost everything.
These experiments, blood tests and observations of symptoms have taught me quite a whole lot. If I had not done these any theories I would have devised would have been very far of the mark much like many of the theories flying around here.
I made a post on here about 2 years ago saying I was recovered. I was convinced at that time that this was all behind me. I felt great relief. I knew others usually don’t recover for long but i felt sure I was back to my former self. At the time I was on a very low dose of arimidex. My libido was back in full wing, woods were good orgasims were very pleasurable, well-being was great.
The recovery only lasted a few days and I was back to living with lifeless dick. But it taught me that the body is able to function correctly. Since then I have tried many anti estrogens and recovered a number of times to varying degrees but last time I got sick as when taking anti estrogens.
I have also been on trt many times - My observations are that when taking TRT without HCG positive effects are seen for a short period of time. In fact right after the first few injections I would always get spontaneous wood. This lasts about a week then the injections do little. And in fact they make me worse after a week. But in the first week i feel improved sense of well being and energy.
When using HCG with TRT I never got any of those spontanious woods after injecting. I started injecting HCG before the testosterone.
When taking high doses of TRT with HCG new body hair grew on my face and chest - This grew consistently if I was still on high doses today I would look like a gorilla. But the high doses gave me cystic back acne and not much improvement in muscles or fat loss around the hips - fin gave me love handles.
When using TRT without HCG and with anti estrogens I was able to increase strength. I could never get my lunges above about 90 kilos. Within one week i went to about 130 and it was easy. Before 90 would almost kill me. This shows me that my muscles are able to respond given the right hormonal situation. They are not androgen resistant.
I learnt a good lesson when quiting TRT while not using HCG. My test went to 1.1 (2.5-8) and blood estrogen was in range but low in range. All my PFS symptoms got SO MUCH worse. I got serious depression. I was unable to exercise. I have been consistently exercising for 10 years and this was the only time that I HAD to stop. My appetite got even more screwed up. Digestion issues were very bad. Anxiety was terrible. Well being totally gone. I I am lucky I did not kill myself. I also got a a new symptom which is not usually a problem that was brain fog. This was a hard lesson but it taught me androgens are ceartanly the key here. It took about 2 months of hell for me to get back to my PFS limp dick normal. Since I have had PFS I have had sex many times but pretty much by force. When I was going though this hell I could not have sex at all. I had pretty much 0 morning/night wood.
On that note - I have had the best morning wood in my life when taking anti estrogens. At one point I though I would have to go to the doctor because my dick wouldn’t even go down after I pissed and went back to bed.
Now on to the blood tests.
When I was on trt the last time without HCG I was taking very small doses - 15mg every 2 days or even less. This did not really help me with anything much. I did some blood and saliva testing on these doses. In order to get my free testosterone in range my siliva (free) estradiol must be over range - estrone was also over range too. This shows me that there is an imbalance between estrogen and testosterone. Which mew and many will say is true without a doubt. You can see that our symptoms we experience are all common issues seen with estrogen dominance.
members.tripod.com/nettie_mae/ar … inance.htm
So why can’t we just take anti estrogens and experience muscle growth, best woods in our life, increased well being, awesome orgasms and a libido that will make you want to take a trip to your local brothel(I had this on arimidex)?
Good question - If estrogen was produced in our tissues at a stable rate we would just need to find the right dose of anti estrogens to slow this down, stay on that and we would be sweet like many who are on TRT.
From what I understand anti estrogens can not inhibit all of the aromataze in the testicles so therefore when you lower estrogen in other tissues in your body your body starts to produce more LH and you produce another boat load of estrogen. A good example of this is scaredtodeaths blood tests. He took tests on a hearty dose of arimidex but his estrogen was higher and free estrogen a lot higher.
So I would say the estrogen produced in the testicles is very hard to control and that is why it seems almost impossible to get stable on anti estrogen’s. I guess that when you take them you are probably lowering estrogen too low in the areas of the brain and other parts of the body too. Because I think there is aromataze in all those areas and I am sure it is there for a reason. Disabling it is probably a bad idea. This would explain why arimidex can also make you feel like shit.
On here is a user named mark.r.d he says he has been using deca + test + hcg for over a year and has grown muscle got his libido and well being back. Is he legit? I added him on skype - He is not online much but i looked him up on facebook his skype pics match and his facebook pics match his story. He seems to have gained a fair bit of size a long with some bloat. Deca can not be converted to estrogen easily so perhaps he has been able to push up his anabolic hormones and keep his estrogen hormones somewhat at bay. Of course deca is not natural and has estrogenic metabolites it is not so androgeneic so you could never be 100 percent better on this reigeme. But I guess it may work for some. You will find reports around the net that deca kills some peoples libido while turns others into rapists.
I tried nandrolone phenyl prop - only a small dose but like trenbolone it gave me pains in the back - near my kidney or liver I guess so I never took any more - I have some decaonate but it lasts in your body so long - I do not really want to take it if it is going to give me organ pains.
During some of my brief recoveries pimples have shown up on the back of my shoulders - I used to get these always before PFS. They always disappear when I start feeling worse again.
This study talks a little about hormones and testicular development - ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9154506 It is not that realated
But we know that if you are have a 5ar mutation you sexual organs will not develop properly - We see that DHT administration can cause growth and development of sexual organs and we see that some here get a twisted dick when their androgens are low.
I myself got a pain in my nut right at the point where I have a nodule when I was taking erase. I never had this nodule before fin. I did an ultrasound and it did not show up on there. But I am sure there is a nodule there - what is it - why does it hurt? Why do people report of extreme nut pain when taking finasteride- could pain mean damage is being done? That is the whole point of pain right? Or is the pain just a result of a change in LH - If that is the cause, does taking TRT with no HCG cause the same pain? Or does HCG cause this pain?
I believe our problems are in the glands that produce the hormones not the cells that receive the hormones themselves.
Some might say hormones are not that powerful this is rubbish. I posted a story on here of a woman on TRT who was on methyl test and and estrogen. Her doc took her off these and gave her just an estrogen patch. Suddenly she was bed ridden with anxiety, loss of muscle crushing fatigue and pretty much totally screwed up. After a few days she realized it was the hormones - switched back to her old hormones and was feeling better in hours.
If anyone else can draw any other rational conclusions based on my observations here I am all ears.