Recently i have been having crazy amounts of dreams. Even when i am awake in the night it’s as if my mind is thinking about a thousand things and creating dreams. Considering the GHB recoveries - maybe i am not getting into a deep sleep enough? I am stuck in REM sleep?
Is anyone else experiencing this?
I have the opposite problem. I can’t get into that dream state. The times where I thought I was recovering were the times I was able to have dreams do maybe you are bouncing back?
I thought REM sleep was the same thing as deep sleep. If you’re having a lot of intense dreams then you should be reaching that deep sleep stage. Do you wake up a lot during the night? I almost always sleep fine and remember having dreams often also, but still have zero libido, nocturnal erections, etc.
For me it is also the opposite. I do not have deep sleep phases any more, i.e. I do not have REM phases.
I could hardly fall asleep and if I fall asleep, I constantly wake up very soon (around 5 o’clock in the morning). My sleep is very “light”. Unfortunately, I do not have any dreams. Before Finasteride I have had many dreams. I often had vivid dreams about beautiful women (also thinking also about it when I have been falling asleep).
I am the same as uk20. I constantly dream. I believe this means I am in the light phase of sleep as well. The body cannot get into that deep recovery type of sleep that normal people get. I usually wake from a pretty vivid dream about 4am. Then I take about 30-60 min to get sleeping again. Then, when I wake from another dreaming phase in the morning, I’m usually weak and not refreshed.
REM (dreaming) sleep is the last stage, you go through all the other stages first before you reach REM, and stages 3-4 are the “deep” sleep stages, more info here:
healthcommunities.com/sleep-stages/overview-sleep-cycle.shtml
With our sleep patterns disturbed I don’t think we’re following the standard cycles.
I also suffer from light sleep, and waking every couple hours. One thing that I’ve found that helps that I haven’t seen mentioned before (but may have been) is to take 1000 mg of calcium right before bed. Doesn’t work everytime but is pretty repeatable for me.
I wish i could sleep for longer than 3 hours straight, it’s absolutely killing me. Is there anyone else who still has sleep issues even after being off the drug for so long?
I barely get 3-4 hours per sleep session. It’s really done a number on my general health.
Yup. It’s as if we are going through andropause or we are like women going through menopause. The sleep problems alone aren’t the end of the world but when you chuck it in with all the rest of the symptoms it is a killer.
I was getting good sleep then I started using my laptop all the time. Now my sleep is lengthy but is getting shallow and unrefreshing again, I need to eat healthily and exercise more. FML.
Luckfax,
They make software to start dulling out the blue light from your LCD screen around 5 or 6 or 7 PM (whenever it naturally occurs for your latitude and longitude), thus helping your body follow a circadian rhythm.
Long before trying any hormonally based treatment I used to get up all the time because my prostate/bladder had a sensation of needing to pee (gradually got worse over the months post fin), but frequently I would only urinate a small quantity - urologist said my prostate was unusually small/usual uro tests came back negative. That’s when I finally read Winter’s basic book on testosterone and demanded it and estradiol be tested. Ultrasound of bladder found negative for any issues, but my T was under 200 ng/dL (range 270-1100).
Has anyone tried the My Zeo sleep monitor? Be good to compare our sleep patterns.
UK20, there is an older thread on here - several of us including I almost never dreamed at all post fin. Are you taking high doses of pregnanalone?
I just made an appointment with a sleep specialist on the 18th of august. Will post my experiences following the appointment.
My sleep has gone completely haywire. I cannot take this anymore. I can’t put into words how horrible it feels. Muscle twitches, sudden jolting, this tingly feeling through my whole body where i feel light and dizzy, extreme anxiety type feeling. Complimented of course with an extra numb penis.
I am going to have to try and see a neurologist or get a sleep study. I just know the NHS will be having none of it though.
I just lay there in bed going into a sleep, dreaming, becoming half awake - again and again. Then for hours i won’t sleep because the discomfort and anxiety gets too much.
I would really like to speak to someone who is having the same issues when they try to sleep. It doesn’t seem like these problems are typical for PFS, especially at 16 months off the drug.
THIS IS KILLING ME!
I get to bed at a decent hour only to wake up 3 hours later ridiculously hot, sweat all over my bed, dehydrated and on the verge of a panic attack. I cannot fucking take this any longer.
UK20, are you supplementing vitamin D? This happens to me whenever I take above a minimal dose.
What form (D2, D3, lots of sun) and how much/how often (if you are).
kazman
Nope.
Nope. It’s been happening to me for 16 months, i wake up with what i can best describe as ‘an inside tremor’.