BEFORE & AFTER story of Clomid Treatment for PFS

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#191

Hey guys,

Quick update:

I dropped I3Complex from my routine (DIM and indole-3-carbinol). As I mentioned before, it definitely does reduce E2 by 25-30% (I tested this), but shrinkage was terrible during usage. A previous poster suggested that DIM can reduce DHT. I think that may be correct and may explain the shrinkage. (This is purely anecdotal.)

Good news is - I re-introduced 5000mg L-Argnine and 2000mg L-Citrulline into my daily supp routine. Previously I’d tried it before bedtime, now I tried it in the morning. It seems to have had a major positive effect on shrinkage. Hanging large and in charge at the moment, so that’s a huge relief. Pun intended. So between dropping I3Complex (DIM and I3 Carbonal) and introducing L-Arg and L-Cit daily, the shrinkage is well under control.

Anxiety is also down. Unfortunately fatigue is way up at the moment. You can never win, but I’ll take it for now.

I’ve been a bit erratic with the Letrozole intake lately, but will get organised, do a solid few months with limited Let, supps ,the Arg / Cit combo, retest and report back soon…

All the best

#192

Hi Legendary

Speak to a guy called Jazz or Jazz1 on hair loss talk. He’s cured his areata and knows his stuff. He knows me as Monty bTW

Good luck and glad to see you’re still here and feeding back. Wishing your continual progress!

#193

Also you may find agmatine worth doing some reading on!

#194

Damn I am about to order some clomid at 25mg online. can’t find a Dr and endo won’t see me even with a refferel from dr…I can’t get help and my physical condition has declined almost beyond belief…Have gained 40lbs of just crazy looking fluid or flab like filled tissue around waist and stomach…love handles are like just swollen up…chest is the same just like legendary describes it’s not gynomasctia but just like water retention…I was a bean pole for 15years weighed 160ish…now 200lbs and been off over a year and only getting worse…Gotta try something before I kill myself this shit is almost unbearable…

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#195

This is a very interesting thread. It would be great if we could get an update about long-term results from legendary and the other guys who were trying his protocol.

#196

I had alopecia areata on my beard and then all around my head. It was just after my crash, so I was very bad internally but also externally, so all the people was asking what was happening to me. It was very terrible for me…like having cancer or so.

I went to a doctor who prescribed me corticoids, in a very “rare” way. It cured my alopecia areata and I think it also help me on my PFS, and that is why I am at 80% pre-PFS.

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#197

Hi,
I am also interested about that doctor? I was advised to take 2 months chlomid but I have took it only for a month. I am afraid of twins or triplets :slight_smile:

#198

Does any one have the name of Legendary Endo? I am in South Africa and would like to visit his endo! Any help would be appreciated!

#199

Has anyone else truly & fully tried copying this protocol?

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#200

i would like to, but need to get his endo dr name

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#201

Sounds good. The drugs required can be obtained from other sources, but obviously it would be much better to do under doctor supervision instead of on your own

#202

ye plus i am in south africa so would be easy for me to see his endo

#203

Yeah, that is def the best option if you can figure out who that is.

Keep us updated if you decide to go down that road.

Clomid scared me so I never really gave it a fair shot–too many stories of eye floaters, etc. I “found” some but took 1 and got scared and stopped

#204

Hey guys,

Hope you’ve all been well…

In retrospect, I wouldn’t take Clomid again. It had strong side-effects for me, and I’m almost certain that it triggered my Alopecia Areata, which started just a few months after taking high doses of Clomid. I now have no beard, head hair and am missing an eyebrow and set of eyelashes. My body had a strong response to it.

Also, it wasn’t necessary for me at all. Low doses of Letrozole boosted my T levels and crushed my E levels while on the meds. No Clomid was needed.

As things stand now: I feel pretty good and have not taken any drugs for a few years. I’m really pushing for a long-term diet / exercise-based recovery. I eat a low inflammation diet, try get in fermented foods for a healthy micro biome, cold exposure etc etc. I feel pretty good. T levels are 14 nmol/L, which is still not great, but not appalling. E2 level is 61 pmol/L. Before, my E2 was consistently over 100 which caused a lot of problems, so I’ve manage to keep E2 levels down naturally. According to me Endo, my problem is more likely around the Estrone <> androstenedione pathway. So if anyone has ideas about how to target E1 specifically, let me know.

So my advice at this stage would be to try avoid Let and Clomid if at all possible. I suspect they can trigger autoimmune issues. You can get results from long-term changes to diet. But everyone is different, so if you still want to see the guy I saw, hit me up with a DM…

All the best

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#205

One other thing - I place zero stock in Homeopathy, but did see a Homeo/Naturopath about a year ago. There are some Naturopath things bundled in with Homeo which do have potential efficacy. Few things I tried: Rehmannia root
Pantothenic acid, Pro Biotic, sulforothane. My total T levels jumped to 19,1. Again, I had had no meds for a couple years, and I had never managed to raise my T levels without meds before this.

That said, they dipped back down again a few months after. So, was it just sleeping better, exercise, some other factor, or just a combination of factors. The point is, that it is possible to raise these levels without meds. So that’s my play at the moment…

All the best

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#206

What is awor’s theory, is there a link to it ??

#207

Good post

#208

Does anyone have a recent update on Letrozole?

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#209

It’s well documented that clomid can cause psychosis.

#210

Thank you so much for the information. Your story is similar to mine. I just started looking into more hormone type therapy and DHEA/Clomid were recommended. Looks like your post was about 5/6 weeks ago. How are you currently feeling? Also, do you see much change in your body cycling weeks your off clomid?

Travis