Are we similar to body builders after a cycle? "Novedex XT" may be a treatment?

First, I’m going to show some articles and try to relate our problem to post-cycle steroid users, then talk about a LEGAL supplement that I just learned about:

Penis Shrinkage/Impotence

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Steroid Users and Testosterone Crash

Are we stuck in a still state in this “negative feedback system” gone wrong? Does Propecia induce something like negative feedback (or related to negative feedback), causing us to placed in a state of estrogen dominance?

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So we use propecia, our bodies shut of DHT production, testosterone falls, estrogen raises and when we get off…we’re stuck, or we’re fixed for a short period of time and we crash.

Again:

muscletalk.co.uk/article-pos … tment.aspx

Does any of the above sound familiar?

This site lists Novedex XT as both one of the best legal testosterone boosters and estrogen inhibitors, and I just found this by chance while reading the article now, I’ve been researching about this product for longer before that.

Go to some weightlifting or muscle building forums and search, I have found many positive results and I am working for more information. Anyway, here is some info on the product itself.

svncanada.com/cart_product. … 669&type=1

I am now working on getting some information on how people found the product, I will try to post this next. I couldn’t get my hands on clomid, but this product seems like a potential legal alternative. I will research more.

Check out this thread: forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea … ht=novedex

and forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=512372

Someone in this thread reported a brainfog-like feeling from it:

forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea … ht=novedex

This thread claims research: forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea … ht=novedex

I will quote the “research”

gasparinutrition.com/Home/AllPro … fault.aspx

Apparently some users are experiencing hair shedding from it (DHT relationship - Shedding is good, we used to shed a ton when we were balding and normal and decided to take Propecia).

As well, read this post:

and:

You know what’s funny? A guy in that thread was suffering from hairloss from Novedex and decided to use Propecia to battle it. Why cannot the opposite be true?

Source: forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/i … 82720.html

Some people are also complaining of insomnia and their bodies feeling hot: forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea … ht=novedex

Check out this post:

Can anyone help me with confirming this? Did he mean DHT?

EDIT: Proved this wrong, Novedex increases DHT substantially!

gasparinutrition.com/Home/AllPro … fault.aspx

Poster experiences:

forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea … ht=novedex

forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea … ht=novedex

forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea … ht=novedex

Guys, I want to try this stuff, any advice out there that you can give me?

From a user whom has used it on musclechatroom.com, Dr. Crisler’s forum:

musclechatroom.com/forum/sho … dex&page=4

If you want to try it, go ahead…

You might want to consider getting bloodwork done beforehand to see if you can track any changes.

There is no doctor that believes any of my issues are hormonal, the doctor I’ve seen is unwilling to do a workup, he’s giving me the “psychological” line. The only doctor I can get a hand on in the Doctors’ forum is one who’s appointment will be one month away.

Find another doc or consider visiting those mentioned on this forum.

The ones listed on this forum had 4-5 month waiting times, and Dr. Kromer, the other one mentioned on this forum has a one month waiting minimum.

Right… so, your point? That’s normal for the healthcare system, not sure why you think you’ll just get an appointment in like 2 days… lol.

Time moves forward regardless so better to make an appointment than not.

I will try to make an appointment, at the same time I’d also like to use this supplement. I’m planning on buying it tomorrow, to see how I feel. I need to feel good physically and mentally, school starts in 2 weeks, and you know how a sense of desperation is like.

Hi Hopingformore,

hope it gives you some improvements. Let us know how it works!

greetz
elv

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Novedex apparently greatly increases DHT levels (as listed in the above research I found), so that poster may have been incorrect, he also called Novedex “Novadex” and DHT “DTH”.

I started using it today, but before that, I got some blood tests done for a baseline on Mew’s suggestion. I went to a doctor, told them what I had planned to do, and that I needed a baseline, and he was more than willing to help. He also reaffirmed things like my developing gynecomastia or fat tissue under my breast that my other Doctor either told me was normal, or did not notice or care to mention. He is just a walk-in doctor, though, not a family physician of whom I can rely on for consistent help. The blood tests should be received in 5 days, only problem being that I took them this afternoon, but my circadian rhythm might be off anyway, so I’m not too sure.

I took them maybe 15-25 minutes ago (2 pills, 60mg each), and so far I felt some tingling on my head, prostate and penis. We’ll see how everything goes.

Solojnk I think you are confused – Nolvadex is a pharmaceutical drug (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator – SERM) while Novedex XT is the bodybuilding supplement he is referring to.