Hopingformore, call up Reine Laboritories and order their “24hr urine panel kit” its about $225.
They’ll send it to you in four days, you can do it, and then you’ll have accurate bllod work. Arguably the MOST accurate.
Then you can start your supplements and recovery stack.
I have started today, but before I did, I got some blood tests done checking testosterone, fh, lh and estrogen.
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Weird experience right now. My semen is sort of all white and thick, I don’t think I’ve had semen like this since I first started using Propecia in 2006. Is this good?
I’ve also been told to take 4 pills a day for the first two weeks, and 2 a day for the next 6 or so, as that is what the makers said was the regular post-cycle therapy for this stuff.
From the “study”:
Inherent bias. Don’t believe everything you read without carefully reviewing the sources… especially when such a paper is hosted on the site which funded the study, and is designed to sell their own products.
Of course, I believe that. Yet, at the same time, these are the only sources besides anecdotal evidence that I have. And I hope it helps me.
I’m on day 4 and so far:
can you explain what the difference is between novadex and a steroid since they both seem to boost T?
wouldn’t getting off novadex cause the same crash in T levels as steroid use
I ordered a bottle of Novedex before noticing topics about it on this forum. It hasn’t arrived yet though. Investigated it a bit and got worried.
One of the active ingredients in Novedex seems to be 3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene. Wikipedia says about it the following:
"[i]1,4,6-Androstatrien-3,17-dione (ATD) is a potent irreversible aromatase inhibitor that inhibits estrogen biosynthesis by permanently binding and inactivating aromatase in adipose and peripheral tissue.[1] It is used to control estrogen synthesis.[2]
ATD is present in some over-the-counter bodybuilding supplements as well as Topical ATD solutions that work transdermally. While not banned, ATD may cause positive urinanalysis results leading to disqualification from competitive sports. ATD has many names in sports supplements including: 1,4,6 etiollochan-dione, 3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene, androst-1,4,6-triene-3,17-dione and many others. These all refer to CAS# 633-35-2.[/i]"
About irreversible aromatase inhibitors it says “Irreversible steroidal inhibitors such as exemestane form a permanent bond with the aromatase enzyme complex.”
About Exemestane (which shares similar pharmacological model of action than Novedex) it says: "[i]Exemestane (trade name Aromasin) is an oral steroidal aromatase inhibitor used in the adjuvant treatment of hormonally-responsive (also called hormone-receptor-positive, estrogen-responsive) breast cancer in postmenopausal women. An aim in the treatment of hormone-receptor-positive patients in preventing recurrence is to lower estrogen levels that this breast cancer thrives on.
The main source of estrogen is the ovaries in premenopausal women, while in post-menopausal women most of the body’s estrogen is produced in the adrenal gland from the conversion of androgens into estrogen by the aromatase enzyme. Exemestane is an irreversible, steroidal aromatase inactivator, structurally related to the natural substrate androstenedione. It acts as a false substrate for the aromatase enzyme, and is processed to an intermediate that binds irreversibly to the active site of the enzyme causing its inactivation, an effect also known as “suicide inhibition.” In other words, Exemestane, by being structurally similar to the target of the enzymes, permanently binds to those enzymes, thereby preventing them from ever completing their task of converting androgens into estrogens.
The estrogen suppression rate for exemestane varies from 85% for estradiol (E2) to 95% for estrone (E1).[/i]"
What does this mean? Do our bodies form new aromatase and the effects of aromatase-inhibitor vanish after a while when we quit taking the drug, or are there only limited amount of nonrenewable aromatase-receptors in body, meaning that by taking something that “binds irreversibly to the active site of the enzyme causing its inactivation” we expose ourselves with god-knows-what kind of permanent physiological and personality changes?
How did it go? I just stopped fina and after 6 days noticed trouble getting a stiff errection. i also work out and I’m going to get novadex or activate extreme both Test boosters…
Did you recover? Did you workout while on it?