Any thoughts

I aswell have shown and still have issues that could be linked to pancreas issues.
Especiall abdominal bloating pain and fatty stool. Food sensitivity etc.

However i think this comes down to hormones as everything else with us.

Just google t/dht estrogen pancreas.

Its been sugested that a low ratio of T to DHT is a usefull marker for pancreatic cancer! Elevated androstendione seem to be common aswell.

Effect of vitamin E on function of pituitary-gonadal axis in male rats and human subjects.
Umeda F, Kato K, Muta K, Ibayashi H.

Abstract
The role of vitamin E in the endocrine system, in particular the pituitary-gonadal axis, was studied in humans and male rats by examining the hormonal differences between vitamin E deficient and supplemented conditions. In vitamin E deficient rats, pituitary content and basal plasma level of FSH and LH were significantly lower than those of the control rats, but testicular content and basal plasma level of testosterone were not significantly changed. On the other hand, in vitamin E supplemented rats, FSH and LH content in pituitary tissue was significantly higher than that of the controls, but there was no significant rise in basal FSH and LH level in plasma. The testosterone level was significantly elevated in both testicular tissue and plasma. It was also demonstrated that basal plasma testosterone and F.T.I. were increased in normal male subjects following oral vitamin E administration and the responsiveness of plasma testosterone levels to HCG was significantly higher during vitamin E administration than before administration. [Size=4]These results suggest that vitamin E may play an important and potent role in hormone production in the pituitary-gonadal axis in humans and rats.[/size]

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6816576

F.T.I = free thyroxine index, obtained by multiplying free t4 by t3 uptake

Questions for me are why am i deficient after eating a balanced diet and supplementing vitamins and am i the only one?

I think an immunoendocrinologist(if there is such a thing)might be a chance of solving this.
My new line of thinking is that once dihydrotestosterone was blocked and or estrogen was raised we become extremly vulnerable.
Seems like a few brief recoveries have some things in common ie.

Mew and norovirus, Mew have you written anything on this site about it? If so could you post a link or if you havent maybe write a little something…Thank you

MartinM and kefir.

Multiple men having brief recoveries from antibiotics.

It also seems like alot of people get a boost from a supplement or medicine and quickly fall off.

For the next while im looking for something that is opportunist enough to take advantage of sometimes an extremly brief break in dht production(change in immune system), can disrupt normal thyroid and adrenal function, can short circut the hpta, hassles the cns, can fuck up general metabolism, can cause digestion problems, vitamin deficiencies, chronic fatigue syndrome, can cause eye problems including floaters and ringing in the ears. Without giving any noticiable patterns from standard blood tests. The hunt… is on :angry:

biliary excretion
removal in the bile of substances including drugs, toxins, hormones or pigments, or their breakdown products. These are delivered to the duodenum and removed in the feces.

medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/biliary+excretion

My morning erections are now rock hard and lasting for about 10 minutes after i wake up, its suprising how this has raised my confidence. I feel it is no fluke that this has come about via my new protocol.
I will crack this…stay tunned.

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One thing that baffles me about this, maybe someone else has the same?
I drink 2 litres of water p/d this is far more than pre fin but i hardly ever piss now.
I eat the same as pre fin, do basically the same amount of exercise and hardly ever shit now.
I hardly ever sweat now either. I should be putting on weight, but im loosing weight.
So where the hell is all the food and water going?

I saw the gastro intestinal doctor today.
I had some tests done before seeing him one really jumped out, it was a marker for intestinal inflammation, i cant remember the proper name but my reading was 452 (0-50).
This is just another indication of how my body has been slaughtered by this drug, this is not just ed and brain fog for me, i have been destroyed.
He sent me for further testing, hopefully he can make some sort of break through.

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After 3 days of anti inflammatories:

More penis sensitivity
Huge morning erections
Undisturbed sleep
No more popping joints
Hair loss rapidly increasing

Unexpected results from anti inflam

Very interesting… This condition is so damn confusing; people getting benefits from anti inflammatory’s/ antibiotics/ multi vits. It’s crazy.

This no shitting/ pissing/ sweating business sounds ridiculous though.

How on earth can you notice ‘rapid hair loss’ in 3 days though?

Bit of respect please joe.

Hair dropping out in front of me, hair on my hands when i put my hands in my hair, its everywhere, like pre fin.

Ive tried to read most stories on this forum but i cant really find one like me, maybe i have missed ones or people havent posted theirs.
I crashed on the drug. I took a pill on the previous day, woke up the next morning sufferering from vertigo, blurry vision, impotence(last thing on my mind) and total loss of control of my body.
I didnt take a pill that day. Didnt take another one.
From then there was no brief recovery, its pretty near been smooth sailing since my little fling with the small hexagon.
5 months on there has been very little improvement. My dht is mid range, dont know when the hell that returned.
Seems most get back to normal then crash, i got nowhere near that.

Also if you have the time please tell me how this fits into your theory, im open to all ideas.

Tim,

Is this still working for you? What type of anti-inflammatory are you taking?

I noticed you didn’t mention the positive effects of this again, so was this just a short lived improvement for you?

Bostonusa, i can find the name later as im away from home now, but the results didnt taper, i only used them for 5 days.
They were for my ankle that just ballooned up for no reason, it responded pretty quick to the drug so i just stopped taking it and havent had a problem since.

I had the intestinal inflammation marker retested, and it was just as high as it was a month ago so it would seem i have chronic inflammation of the bowel.
I think my brain is also inflammed due to the pressure i feel inside my head.

To answer boston in the above post the anti infla was naproxen. Results never tapered i just stopped using them cause the swelling went down, as tempting as it was to stay on them i decided against it.

I went out tonight and had a few vodkas and sparkling waters (no sugar) and i feel suprisingly good, libido from 0 to 30, brain fog from 10 to 5 anxiety and depression all but gone. ED…well im not going to lie to you…but i will take any sort of boost i can get at the moment.

I have been doing the broccoli treatment 3 days now. One thing that has changed is i can power piss again.

A recent abdominal ultrasound I had revealed signs of past episode(s) of pancreatitis. If I had to put a marker on it it was during a period when I thought I had irritable bowel syndrome for a preiod of several weeks. Need to study the calender to see if it was while I was on finasteride, or after quiting.

I had simlar problems kazman but i know i had been off the drug for a period of time, maybe a month.
I also had an ultra sound but they found nothing.
I have a gastroscopy and colonoscopy scheduled for over the next 2 weeks.