I have “crashed” / PFS symptoms but I did not quit, I just up’d the dosage too high on day. Do I stop or continue ?
Took Fin for 15 years great results, 2 years =1mg, 13 years= 1.25mg
The Last three weeks I had been shedding massively. I panic’d and took a larger dose, 2.5mg and got hit hard right away with ball-aching, lymp, plumbing problems, chest pain.
Do I stop taking and hope they go away? Do I ween off? Do I continue 1.25mg?
Hi, one thing for sure, you need to get off the shit.
I got late ED problems at month 11. I then “forgot” to take it which kinda amounts to tapering off. I stopped after I ended up completely impotent one day and experienced a complete endocrine blackout a week off the pill…
Interesting fact about your shedding : seems fin stops being efficient at some point.
PFS is a persistence of symptoms three months after quitting. You may level off after you quit. There are more experts here on helping you, I am very early in the PFS gang.
Most people here will tell you you should quit, that will be the consensus.
when u stop please taper really slowly dude
Okay, Any suggestions? Not sure what slowly means day/dose wise.
I already within 3 days have most symptons and its kind of undeniable. If I have a window to act now, I’m just not sure what it should be.
I’m not one of the more common cases of “1 month after quitting crash” I would definitely continue usage if there was a science logic to it. Since I never felt side effects at 1.25 for 15 years, I am also curious if this is my FIRST feeling of side effects as my body reacted to that dosage and if I were to quit cold now there’s a better chance that in weeks that i could be a more common case of user that describes the scary side effects going away.
I think tapering as slow as possible can maybe sneak u out of the problem. Idk how slow but i would take months honoustly. Better be safe dude, getting PFS is hell.
Interesting theory, again so we’re clear, what do you mean taperly slowly; Example- Keep taking 1.25 daily, and Month 1 start by missing one day a week, than Month 2 miss two days per week, etc.
Cant u break open the capsules and slowly taper the substance u take in one day, and build off in like 2/3 months? And tapering is really how u avoid bad withdrawal/crashes often, cant promise anything though.
Finasteride has a near flat dose-response curve with a 0.2 mg dose decreasing DHT by %62 and 5 mg by %70. It’s generally either “on” or “off”.
This makes it extremely difficult to taper or to give advice how to.
I kinda tapered of while having the symptoms, did not make a huge difference on the outcome here…
But it tends to vary from people to people…
What happened to me might be different
In choosing an option for right now- If this is common “side effects” and they go away with continued use, it would be better I keep going, right? because in the scenario that I stop cold I then increase the risk of actual PFS (if this isn’t PFS already).
Does that make any sense?
Honestly there is no text book mate…
I was talking with a French PFS sufferer who has a bit of medical background, he believes tapering off might not be the safest option…
But again, some would disagree…
No one will advise you to carry on with the onset of sides…
Remaining or not in the drug has been already much debated here…
BUT AGAIN I have no intention to advise anything…
And in retrospect, I had sides which went unnoticed ( low mood, which cannot be necessarily linked to PFS).
I kept on 1 mg and other sides appeared. Again you might be ok and I hope you will !
Big help man, appreciate it.
Again, I am generally confirming that this is generally reguarded as true that almost “No one will advise you to carry on with the onset of sides…” That would make my decision easier. But if some of the more studied or medical folks chime in with a logic saying I have a better chance by staying on, since i’m only 3 days off. I would consider it.
I’m very greatfuly for you guys writing. thanks agian
My only advice : you have to think in the long run…
Again: think of a way to get off this shit… If you asked anyone here : Hair VS my former life, I guess that for once we would have a 100 % survey and I know the answer…
Ok
My understanding was that people got PFS because they Stopped. That’s essentialy the only thing I’m getting at I suppose
Thanks agian realy, you guys writing means the world to me
It is a bit more complicated than this…
This shit is complex as hell and again the big science guys are not around to try and give you more insight. But I know their feeling: hop off ASAP.
PFS = symptom which persist after 3 months, permanent…
Some get out of it before that time and don’t get PFS.
Some get some symptoms which get better over the last three months and keep some minor SE.
Some start slow and get worse for no fuckin reason.
Some take it for years and never get sick…
Just take a decision, don’t sweat on it. Just AVOID HAIRLOSS FORUMS for advice… I went there and got fucked… And more could chime in…
IMO, the longer you stay on the drug, the longer you run the risk.
It is a shame there isn’t a tapering method.