many people took armidex and clomid and it isn’t the cure… why are you taking it?
Sky high Estrogen/SHBG.
What is the cure?
Read the thread bryce. He’s had estrogen and SHBG labs consistently over the top of the range along with symptoms of excessive estrogen in the body.
Follow Mew’s advice for additional research on the dosage. If your doc isn’t familiar with armidex then there is a chance he could be too high on the dosage and this is another drug that needs to not be overdone. Research, research, research…
Thanks Martin - I am finding lots of conflicting info. But 2 mg per day seems too high!
Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
Some starting research points, note they were found by using the keyword “Arimidex” in the search engine of this site and google.
ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/67807-arimidex-half-life-dosage.html
Looks like you can go for 1/4 of 1 mg tab every other day or try to do 1/8th of a tab every day for a good starting point, but plz evaluate and make your own decision.
And here’s a good (re)post from user larryh in another thread:
As usual Martin is right on target. When I saw Shippen last November he said 1 mg daily was way too high and he said you could do 1 mg twice a week at most. I guess it depends on where your e2 is of course and you have to have frequent labs to make sure you arnt tanking your e2. Oddly for me even high dose didn’t do that much to lower my e2.
your Estradiol is not high. if still want to use ,use Andractim. Arimidex is not without sides, many have found it useless. visit some forums and see people fighting with its sides.
Striken, per the repost of scared’s earlier post, he’s consistently had high estrogen and shbg counts, it’s lowered only since he’s been taking dim. See below. If you think Arimidex is not the right path or dangerous back up your statement with a credible reference, he’s been seeking advice for a while now and just saw his dr today. Another Captain Hindsight we do not need.
Yeah, that’s the main question here, right? Did you try any of my diet recommendations? I saw obvious things to me that were wrong with your diet and I sent you back a message in reply to you, but I never heard back from you.
Bryce - yes -actually I did change my diet - fairly radically. Its pretty much a Paleo/alkaline diet. I also have gone back to running fairlt rigorously. But no matter what even with dim my E and SHBG are elevated and my testicles are shrunken and painful (still producing T though).
are you eating any fruits or something with high fructose… like apples or pears? or possibly berries (i know this has low fructose, but it caused me pretty bad testicle pain)? or coconut water? i was getting fairly bad testicle pain with eating these things at one point because of something propecia did to me, i have no way to explain this, but i know it was happening. i know your celery was a problem also, eggs also, and all dairy is a no no, did you change these as well? do you want to go through your basic diet right now again and i can take a look at it?
Right now my diet consists of nuts/seeds, fruit (mostly berries - not high fructose types), vegetables, some lean chicken, salmon once a week
No bread, no flour, no dairy fat (sometimes no fat greek yogurt), no sugar at all.
Running three to four times a week (3-4 miles)
BTW - only day two on arimidex. No change to testicle size but HUGE libido changes. Also, my refractory period has greatly shortened
Good to hear, what dosage are you using?
Could you describe the detail of the libido changes. It will be useful for as and also for yourself later on if it does not persist. My libido was fixed for a few days on arimidex at .05 EOD. I wrote my updates as I was going so I can look back and understand exactly what level I did get to.
Are you having any fatigue? Estrogen stimulates the production of transcortin which binds to cortisol.
Any digestion issues?
Hey guys - sorry I was travelling. To update on libido - thus far I have taken 0.5 mg for three days. Yes, I understand this will be too much to sustain. My plan is to take 0.5 mg for ONE week - then drop to 0.5 mg every other day. Why - a couple of folks were on 0.5 mg every other day and saw no drop until the went every day - but then actually dropped their E too low. Also, one study someone pointed me to said 1 mg per day dropped folks E in half after one month. This is my general target which would put me around 20-25 for E. But I would rather lower slowly so I do not shock my system into doing something to counteract the estrogen drop. So my one week plan was to try to quick start a bit of a drop and then plateau and slowly drop the rest of the month. I will followup with bloodwork every month. I would appreciate comments - I have a feeling most may say I am still too aggressive. BTW - Not sure how people take 0.25 mg - these pills are SO small to begin with that even halfing is a challenge.
So onto libido - on just day 2, I was travelling and found myself flirting with a girl in an airport bar. Believe me this is not normal for me - I am married and would never cheat so this was innocent flirting but something that never happens post-fin. Get to my hoetl and my window is facing the hotel pool and wouldn’t you know looking at all the MILFs in their somewhat conservative bikinis drove me cray - so I gave in to my urges (alone). Went to dinner with folks from my company and we were drinking some. Came back to the hotel and was still horny and gave in again. Two things with this - I can never get to that state in just a few hours after orgasm - and I rarely would/could after drinking. The next a.m. still fairly horny and had to a third time.
OK - so I probably did it one time too many - I could definitely sense I overdid after that but really - it has been years since three times in a 12-15 hour period. Its as if my refractory period suddenly greatly reduced - it did not go away but did shorten.
So this am which is one day later. I feel OK - normally if I overdo it I may end up in a 3/4 day shrunken painful period. Not now. I could go again but I will not.
So please - any comments - expecially on the doasge.
I think you already know the comments on the dosage… Watch the signs closely. When are you due for your next set of blood tests? Wouldn’t this be a good time to get a full set, to know where you’re at?
I just saw my doc this Monday - I am only four days into this. He has set me up for monthly bloodwork -cannot see how I could get some after 4 days. Although I think it would be telling. My guess - I think my estrogen is probably in the 30s now. Given it normally is around 40, this would explain a jump in libido. To be clear it is nothing like pre-fin…
Day 5 - I still feel much better. Flaccid size seems better. Testicles are not really bigger but are much more sensitive/alive.
Facial growth is ridiculous - I look like a monkey in the mirro each a.m.
“To be clear it is nothing like pre-fin…”
What exactly do you mean?
I gues I would sya my libido was 65% of pre-fin. So nothing as strong as before but far better than PFS which I put at 0-20% of my old self. Biggest change was refractory period vs. libido jump. Things seem to have tailed off quite a bit - perhaps my body adjust and compensating the wrong way