Welcome to our community. Please fill in the following template as a way of introducing yourself, and helping others to understand your background and situation.
Where are you from (country)?
How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
What is your current age, height, weight?
23, 173cm, 77kg
What specific drug did you use (finasteride, dutasteride, saw palmetto, isotretinoin/Accutane, fluoxetine, sertraline, citalopram, leuprorelin, etc…)?
What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
What condition was being treated with the drug?
For how long did you take the drug (weeks/months/years)?
over 1 year
How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start the drug?
How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?
23, first quit on 2020.06, recovered without problem, then restart on 2020.08 for two weeks, haven’t recovered yet and crashed on 2021.02.
How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
How long into your usage did you notice the onset of side effects?
the first pill
What side effects did you experience that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?
majorly sexual, mental and physical sides were mitigated considerably by hcg+clomid
Check the boxes that apply. You can save your post first, then interactively check/uncheck the boxes by clicking on them. If your symptoms change, please update your list.
Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
Loss of Morning Erections
Loss of Spontaneous Erections
Loss of Nocturnal Erections
Inability or Difficulty to Ejaculate / Orgasm
Reduced Sperm Count / Motility
Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
Memory Loss / Forgetfulness
Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
Slurring of Speech
Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
Severe Depression / Melancholy
Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
Penis curvature / rotation on axis
Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
Gynecomastia (male breasts)
Dry / Dark Circles under eyes
Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
Tinnitus (ringing or high pitched sound in ears)
Increased hair loss
Lowered body temperature
Other (please explain)
shrunken Adam’s apple
abnormal heart pumpin
What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
hcg+clomid+AI from last month, countless supplements.
If you have pre or post-drug blood tests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (please post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?
2021.02.22 when I crashed:
T: 9.64 nmol/L
LH and FSH around 5
CK(creatine Kinase): 567U/L (38-174)
2021.03.26 6days after clomid:
LH: 12+ FSH: 14+
E2: 24 pg/ml
2021.04.10 and 4.12 2 weeks after hcg+clomid+AI (I took it twice since I required to measure my DHT level and CAG repetition from a private lab)
T: 22.94 nmol/L
SHBG: 10.3 nmol/L (11.9-57.7)
Free-T: 48.3 pg/ml (15-50)
DHT: 1448.53 pg/ml (250-990)
DHEA-S: 876 ug/dl (85-690)
Anti-mullerian hormone: 16.87ng/ml (0.73-16.05)
LH: 35+ FSH: 28+
E2: 20 pg/ml
CAG repetition: 27 (in normal range but can be explained as insensitive to androgen)
2021.04.27 4 weeks after hcg+clomid (I stopped AI since E2 was under control last time)
T: 6.56 ng/ml
E2: 37 pg/ml
LH: 37+ FSH: 27+
CK(creatine Kinase): 187 U/L (24-195)
2021.05.14 only on hcg and a little AI
T: 7.65 ng/ml (1.75-7.81)
E2: 49 pg/ml (<39)
LH: 22+ FSH: 16+
Cortisol: 22.8 (4-22.3)
FT3: 3.64 (1.8-4.1)
FT4: 1.44 (0.81-1.89)
TSH: 0.912 (0.38-4.34)
my PRL are always fine so I just didn’t mention it.
Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience?
Tell us your story, in your own words, about your usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.
First of all, please forgive me about my English, it is not my first language, secondly, to make sure my story is credible, I use my real name as this forum’s user name.
before fin, I was a very health young man, relatively strong and in good shape, since I used to be a soccer player. Also, I was really sexual active, I started my sex life when I was in middle school and never stop it since high school until my crash, I used to be a beast on the bed and can satisfy a women multiple times without any problem, but it all destroyed by fin.
unlike other guy in this forum, I do my research and know pfs before I tried fin, but just because I cann’t accept going bald in my early 20’s, and my doctor promised me that the side affects are very rare and will go away if you continue using it. It made me finally to give this poison a shot on 2019.04.
I feel the decreasing libido and harder to achieve an full erection after the first pill, but trust in what my doctor has said, I believe this side effects will fade away, and since that time I still have regular sex with my partner and some random affair when traveling, I really hadn’t take these minor side effects seriously. in 2019.07, I broke up with my partner and start some random hookups, I had sex with 3 new partners from 2019.07 to 2019.11, since then every time before sex I will need a long time blow job from my partner to get me full up, it is awkward, but the sex were still always successful. The first no show happened in 2019.11, when I met a new partner and decided to develope a long term relationship with her, the first time we have sex I just cann’t get it up, this really freak me out, we stopped trying and fell asleep together, I got a rock hard nocturnal erection then, and we had a great sex that night, after that our sex were just so awesome and so enjoyable, we even can have sex five times in a whole day, so that I just forget that no show alert immediately.
I first ceased drug in 2020.06, when a day that I realize I almost have no libido at all, after discontinued with fin for two weeks, I feel I recover to my old self fully, extremely horny and just want to have sex every day every time. I went for a road trip with my another lover in 2020.07, that was the happiest time I have had since fin started, and I fucked her 7 times in first 3 days until her pussy got hurt by me, I even got arouse by her body note when we were driving, then we parked our car and made love on the vast inner Mongolia prairie(sorry to be so specific), right now I am just asexual like a eunuch, so every time when I recall those memory from last July, recall that how energetic how happy I was, I feel so sad and lose, since being normal is that good, but I just cann’t and far away from normal.
the recover is so good, but my hair started falling rapidly again soon after I ceased drug, due to my obsession about my hair, I decided to give fin another try, maybe the second time I will be tolerant to those sides? how stupid I was! this maybe the worst decision I have ever made and I regret it everyday right now, I restart fin in 2020.08, soon all the sides come back, I feel I am enough for this, so I shaved my head and ceased it two weeks later, but it is too late.
During 2020.08-2020.10, I feel normal and stable, I still have regular sex with my partner and date with other girls, just the libido was still low, I thought maybe this time the recover just need more time, but after 2020.11, firstly I can hardly fell asleep, and then I woke up with a start several times and just feel I cann’t breath, also I feel my libido start fading away, I have no motivation to date with new girls, and I kept my relationship till 2021.01 with my partner and we broke up, in 2021.01 I noticed that if it is not my partner initiate the sex, I almost forget about it. in 2021.02, I tired to have sex with some new girls but that was the time I realized sth is really wrong for me, the first time I just cann’t get it up even my mind want me to fuck her, the second time I was in bed with two pretty twins, and we have sex for more than an hour but I just cann’t feel anything and cann’t reach orgasm, I went soft twice. After that I feel extremely anxiety and I just cann’t believe that pfs can happen upon me. And so many terrible symptoms started after that, such as muscle twitching, insomnia, abnormal heart pumping, panic attack, depression and suicidal thoughts, I tried to seek medical help after that nightmare.
I will update my medical experience in the next page since this is already to long.