Granted, it is ultimately Merck (or whatever) manufacturers fault for not listing permanent side effects on the packaging, but j899 is attempting to give his SCIO machine doctor credibility simply they thought manipulating hormones is dangerous, and if this doctor were truly so trustworthy and wise i am unsure why he did not listen
The fda is to blame. This crap should have been red flagged long before it got in my mouth.
Thankyou Luckflax…finally someone with some common sense. The FDA is at fault here, fair and square. If a drug is on the market its absolutely my right to get a second opinion if a doctor doesnt agree with it. The poor outcome is no-one’s fault but those who know about this product causing people harm who I suspect is the FDA and Merck.
AGAIN YOUR WRONG!! LOL
I SAID HE HAD A CELLULAR HEALTH ANALYSER…TOTOALLY DIFFERENT. ARE YOU AWARE OF HOW MANY MACHINES ARE USED IN MODERN MEDICINE???
WORD.
Guys clearly Golf knows more than any of us. That is why he is cured while we are still suffering from this crap. Nice one. Attacking the integrity of Bill Nelson by highlighting the fact that he is a cross dresser. He is actually a hermaphrodite. That does not make him/her any less credible than a normal person. May I remind you that you (and myself) have severe hypogonadal symptoms and many of us have practically been reduced to eunuchs. Would you want someone to cast doubt on your credibility because of your medical condition?
I am totally behind the idea of getting some solid research in a laboratory done to figure out what is wrong with us. Unfortunately guys on this forum have been talking about this for 10 years and nothing has happened. I don’t blame this on anyone here as I know that a lot of guys here have been busting their balls to make this happen. Unfortunately there just hasn’t been the same level of enthusiasm from the medical community.
In the meantime I am going to be proactive about this thing and will explore any safe means of figuring out what is wrong with me, scio being one of them, heavy metal testing another. I will never regret doing something that is safe and turns out not to be helpful. I would however regret not trying something that carried no risks, and could have helped me.
I have personally found the scio useful as a diagnosis tool. Not so much for its ability to heal though. I would be an ass not to recommend to others what I, myself, had found useful and safe. If there are open minded among us that want to try it then why should they be condemned? Similarly, if people don’t want to try it than that is their own prerogative. In closing I take the example of homeopathy, acupuncture, or reflexology. Conventional medicine cannot explain how these alternative remedies work, yet many people have derived benefit from them, so who are we to tell them otherwise?
I agree with you wholeheartedly RSA…thanks for the input.
An update on me. Ive ingested probably around 4000mg of zinc over the last few months. Yet I still fail a zinc taste test. And I have had no improvement in symptoms, however most of symptoms are that of zinc deficiency.
I really think that I just have a huge zinc deficiency and copper toxicity and this is going to take some time to correct. The fact that I still cant taste the zinc taste test is telling me this. Also I have very slow wound healing. I cut myself about a month ago and the cut is still a scab. That is not normal and is highly indicative of zinc deficiency.
Some improvements since I started the zinc are that my urine is no longer cloudy. I really think it’s helping my prostate as it should. Also my semen is getting a little thicker, but its also more white now than a yellowish colour.
I saw my naturapath again and hair mineral analysis is on its way. I am also targeting dopamine via 1500mg of Tyrosine daily. Chronic dopamine deficiencies can take around a year to mend so we’ll see.
Back to the zinc, its really strange that I have had no improvement in symptoms whatsoever. I still get bloated all the time and I hope this is just copper coming out of me. As I said to my naturapath though, its very strange that I have had no real improvements on how I feel since starting such a high amount of zinc. You would expect at least a minor improvement. I just think im still scraping the bottom of the barrel and my deficiency is quite a big one that will take some time to correct. Of note Im also taking 2mg of copper per day so I dont become copper deficient and copper is needed to sythesize copper elimination.
Somthing I read on a website regarding womens PMS and copper toxicity said that if women’s nipples are brown and not pink, this indicates coppert toxicity as the copper is deposited in the nipple (same as in sex organs). Im not sure how true this is, or if it is true for men as well, but my nipples are brown and not pink. They are pink only right in the very middle. Just somthing to note. Heres the link:
“If your nipples turn from pink to brown, that’s another sign of copper poisoning.”
cybernation.com/livingston/m … nopms2.php
Will keep you all posted and im still as sure as ever that im on the right track here for my problems…I can only try. I am also targeting Magnesium and Sodium (for adrenals). I get a twitch in my left eye a lot which can indicate Magnesium deficiency and I also get a little shakey which is also a symptom. Also my DHEA is in the gutter, which Magnesium plays a big part in.
Copper can block other nutrients, zn, mg, i, mn, fe,… vits b1, c, e and folate
Yea, it can basically screw your entire system. Im trying my best to replace everything evenly with a naturapath’s help, though its not easy.
Letsconvenience,
Can you please describe what it feels like to detox copper? When you say you dump copper, what does it feel like? Thanks…
Ok, ive got my hair mineral analysis kit here, it arrived today. So I will be doing that tonight and sending it off tomorrow.
Ive also now got Molybednum so will be starting on that as well which is also a copper chelator. The dose is 200mcg twice daily.
Ive also now got 3 months supply of the Bile Acid Factors. I didnt mess around and got about 10 bottle of the stuff. I know I need to be on this stuff anyway. Ox Bile was prescribed to me even before I took Finasteride.
Im also now taking a sodium sulfate lozenge. Pop it under the toungue. Since sulfation is responsible for eliminating copper as well.
Will keep you posted.
Ive just realized my hair may not be long enough yet to do the analysis. It needs to be 4cm long. At a guess its probably two at the most. Could be another 2 months before I can do this thing…dam.
My pubes are cut fairly short so cant do that either.
I sent one away a week and a half ago…should be interesting to see what shows up
Tim, I prefferred the first post you put up… 
A little humour never goes astray and this forum is lacking in it for obviousl reasons…
Ive just had my girl measure my head hair and it looks like I will just scrape in the 4cm…JUST. So I will do it tomorrow and should have results in about 3 weeks.
To the person who sent me this via PM, I hope you dont mind, but the guys need to see this:
I had to take the post down because my pm become flooded from people wanting the free box of fin 
Caption…
“Propecia, chopping off dicks since 1998”
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Back to the zinc, its really strange that I have had no improvement in symptoms whatsoever. I still get bloated all the time and I hope this is just copper coming out of me. As I said to my naturapath though, its very strange that I have had no real improvements on how I feel since starting such a high amount of zinc. You would expect at least a minor improvement. I just think im still scraping the bottom of the barrel and my deficiency is quite a big one that will take some time to correct. Of note Im also taking 2mg of copper per day so I dont become copper deficient and copper is needed to sythesize copper elimination.
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I do not really get any improvement from taking zince, and I believe I was taking 50mg per day… perhaps I am not lacking zinc at all… I wasnt aware that you could buy a zinc test at A Walgreens, but I had seen someone post that. So I am going to pick one up after work and see how that goes…