xyrem/GHB

Therapeutic Efforts Supplements & Lifestyle
#1

Because people just get tired of trying to fight the system and their docs to try and get it legally. Especially in a post fin state, it’s just exhausting. Sleep studies, ridiculous amounts of Doctors visits, insurance companies, explaining your situation over and over again and have it fall on deaf ears the majority of the time. Not to mention all the while they can’t even make it normally through their day because of debilitating sides. The whole thing is one big mess.

My sleep could always be better as I had issues sleeping prior to fin which are now maginified in the post fin state.

There have been other people that have tried it and not been cured. “Italysideeffect” is one that comes to mind right away. While it may definitely help with sleep, which is important in it’s own right, I don’t believe it to be the cure.

That being said, I wouldn’t mind experimenting on myself to reap the benefits of better sleep, which would have very beneficial effects and increase the effectiveness of my current regimine. If you would be so inclinded as to PM me your ingredient sources so that I can conduct these experiments, I’d be grateful.

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#2

Can i just comment that ordering “XXX” illegal ingredients from whatever country and paying via western union, and mixing up your own batch of GHB doesn’t sound very safe?

I am especially curious as to why, CD, you are interested as the majority of your post encourage healthy eating an natural supplements. Not creating some gray-area drug cocktail.

Is the goal of GHB to release more growth hormone? that is what, from reading some other post, is my understanding. If so, then what not try baclofen if anything - as (perhaps) a safer alternative, instead of mixing some stuff you order from the internet.

#3

That does sound pretty shady…

Natural one, look at my post, I asked you to PM me the source, not post it on the forum. Big difference. I give information freely, as I believe anyone who is having success should. Not cryptic forum posts that suggest this or that.

Golf: I’m curious by nature and if I can try something that may have beneficial effects that outweight the negatives, I’ll try it. What I don’t have is patience with the current medical system. GHB was sold OTC until the FDA pulled it. Just because the FDA pulled it doesn’t mean shit…

#4

Yes, the FDA doesnt really matter now after this experience - i used to trust them, and doctors… but yeah, mixing chemicals up based on some “ghb recipe” you find online could do more harm.

The baclofen, however, seems to have a lot of positive effects similar to GHB. And there are studies on it to support it as well.

#5

(sigh)…I think it’s time to take your ritalin again…or better yet…vitex

#6

Heroin also cured someone on the board.

#7

natural one,

accutane/retinoic acid is found in the body ‘NATURALLY’ occuring yet it still fucked us up super bad…is it possible that the GHB helped ithappen so much cause he had it confirmed thru a sleep test that he had no stage 3 or 4 deep sleep? I know for myself my sleeping isin’t nearly as good as it once was years ago but i’m sure some of us get deep sleep but still have these problems. I would imagine GHB gave him deep sleep according to his posts which increased his testosterone and other neurohormone production and thats why he was cured. However it’s obviously still worth trying if we can get our hands on it, especially before we go the testosterone/DHT injections route.

#8

Stop flaming. You raised a useful topic, don’t taint it with antics.

Saw balcofen mentioned here a few times… need I say again that balcofen and phenibut are extremely simmilar chemicals. The only issue is that, like GHB, I haven’t seen any way to obtain it.

Regarding why GHB is useful, it isn’t merely GH; GHB has many significant effects on neurochemicals, and it’s primary use is for deep sleep - the same kind of deep sleep so many seem to lose after suffering Propecia side effects.

We’re not just looking for a magical drug to heal us, we’re also searching for the cause. But, like a few mentioned before, getting Xyrem is a web of red tape, and I assume no one here besides you wants to play bathroom chemist and risk violations.

There’s also no evidence that GHB is a sure-fire cure for the post-finasteride syndrome. Admittedly though, it seems to be effective against the symptoms we combat daily.

#9

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You should fix your sarcasm detector… As far as sensible thinking, I’m not sure that’s something you’re capable of seeing as a month or two ago you were spouting off about how vitex cures EVERYTHING. You were also telling everyone how by taking ONE dose of DIM you had impossible changes to your system within a matter of hours…bullshit. This coupled with your arrogant, know it all attitude and the fact that you think you are the only one capable of garnishing viable research makes you less then good source of info to say the least.

This is the reason why you face so much resistance. Most of the time you give conflicting information that is subpar at best. And I don’t think cynical is a good fit, more like hardened. Most of us have “been there done that” and know most of the stuff you say is wrong. You were right about the propecia effecting my judgement, it must have for me to be asking you anything.

#10

Ooooh, an old fashion duel. The only thing missing is the glove slap across the face. How exciting.

Yawn. Calm down sport.

You have the bedside manner of arrogant physician. I was of course paraphrasing what you had said, because it’s not really important enough for me to go back and have to rewrite your drivel word by word. It was close enough.

If I was so inclined, i could go and find probably over a dozen posts whereby you push vitex like you were selling it. Vitex kills your libido, period. The stuff is horrible. And as far as all the other magical qualities you say it posseses, well, it’s just not true. I could go and get sources, but again, you’re just not worth my time. If it was so great everybody could take it and their hormones would balance and that would be the end of it. That’s just not the case now, is it? Why is this? Because it doesn’t work.

And, I doubt you will be “cured” from GHB. You might get some better sleep, which is important, but you won’t get the “cure” you seek. A couple good nights sleep isn’t gonna fix this problem. Good luck champ.

#11

LOL! This statement shows just how little you know.

Then why aren’t people cured by taking it? Why are peoples hormones all over the place? You can’t answer that question. It DOESN’T balance all hormones the way you describe. That’s a ridiculous statement, like most of the statements you make. Your psuedo science claims don’t hold water. What you say it does is completely impossible. That means some one with fucked up hormones should be able to take it and balance out all of their hormones. IT DOESN’T HAPPEN.

#12

at least your guys brains are still capable of debating/killing eachothers statements

#13

Will lock this thread if it continues.

#14

Listen, if thats the case, then all these guys need to do, who have low test, high E, bad cortisol, etc, etc, is take vitex and it will “create perfect hormonal balance.” huh? Do you really think this? Really? I have a feeling it wouldn’t do shit.

#15

Actually other than the fact that you can od on it, and it is of course very addictive, heroin is not that hard on the body. You can be a heroin addict for many decades and do less damage to you body than alot of legal drugs (of course fin is at the top of that list).