HI guys, another question. Anyone crash / feel worse after masturbation? I masturbated twice in a day and it felt like my balls were empty, then the suicide ideation came in the evening and I couldn’t sleep. Don’t know if it was just a coincidence but wondering about your own experiences…
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Absolutely 100% makes it worse. It depletes the little bit of libido that you have and makes numbness way worse for me.
DO NOT CUM
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Yeah im general I would abstain from it, I feel the best when I don’t for long periods of time. It’s not worth it IMO.
Don’t know if sex counts, probably, but it’s not like we are getting that, right? Lol
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I’ve found that masturbating days back to back is a problem, certainly wouldn’t go twice in one day. From reports here I have a theory that masturbation after fin stoppage is a PFS trigger. Not 1:1 obviously it’s possible to stop fin and masturbate without getting PFS. But for those at the tipping point maybe. I’ll put this out here again…has anyone gotten PFS without masturbating between stopping fin and the onset of symptoms?
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Yeah sucks, will I be able to recover from where I was at?
Always keep this in mind, recovery is always possible, it has happened, it can happen to you.
However, you must certainly put some investement, it’s not (only) a miracle, while time is the biggest factor it seems, there are a couple of life-style changes I would reccomend to avoid worsening or getting stuck at where you are.
- Firstly, live as healthy as you can, don’t eat sugary or highly processed foods, exercise daily if possible, and make sure you keep mentally active and social.
- Secondly, avoid any kind of drugs like the plague. Seriously, I don’t think it’s worth it to experiment in yourself unless you are a serious case and you really want to risk it gambling. Recovery may come with only the first thing and a bit of patience.
- Third, last thing also includes antidepressants. I’m not a doctor, but I would avoid them too and if you are on them right now I would cut them off, not so much because they might worsen your symptoms, but because they can generate a dependency (AD are a common factor among tragedies here)
- Fourth, yeah, I would reccomend avoiding mastrubation too, since doing so releases testosterone in the long term. You don’t want to stress your androgen receptors even more.
- Finally, accept your syntomps and work accordingly, keep moving, don’t look back.
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Lol, that happened to me too.
Or maybe is not that masturbation triggers PFS symptoms, but before PFS kicks in, your body becomes temporally more sexually active. That could be another interpretation of at least my case (especially considering I got some side effects while I was taking it)
I had on-drug sides too but I have yet to read a single case of purely POST finasteride symptoms not preceded by masturbation. I’ve put the question out there twice and got no contrary reports.
That said, a followup question is how long after fin stoppage did you masturbate and how long after that did PFS start. My answer is a week after stoppage and PFS hit two days later.
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Either my theory is too stupid to respond to or I’m on to something. If the latter, this might be useful for future researchers trying to trigger post-fin symptoms in a lab setting. I think the mechanism would be different from persistent on-drug sides. My as yet unfalsified theory includes cycles of start/stop/restart/stop and masturbation after stop. The only unknown right now is any commonality or limit to the timeframe involved. Researchers could trial and error this but a starting point from patient reports would be helpful.
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When i had my pfs crash it happened after masturbation but it was coming anyway
When I had pfs I felt no different after ejaculation, then when I got better it relaxed me again.
When I took antidepressants like a dumb mf I was crashing for weeks and months before and ejaculations started to make me feel worse.
Now if I ejaculate once I feel absolutely horrible, suicidal. I guess thus is how I would feel if I took testosterone now.
Imo this is the best way to measure how you would react to increasing androgens.
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Are you saying that in post ejaculation androgens rise? I forgot the post but it was an interesting note from someone on reddit who was a transgender man on testosterone and they got PFS, after that they started having adverse reactions to it. I wish I could find it but unfortunately it’s lost unless you want to do some digging.
I’m less reactive to everything after it but I suppose with me currently the refractory period is still a lot heavier. When I was much worse and managed to get things going at all and get to orgasm if I didn’t lose interest before that because I could barely feel anything I would feel almost no difference post orgasm like it never happened at all. I’ve heard of people crashing from it though in both the PFS and PSSD communities. Personally much earlier on I did the multiple orgasm test which that early felt more like some kind of bizarre torture that was based on someone saying they got improvements from rebounding off of frequent orgasms. No results from it. There was random times that if I induced enough stimulation to the tip and orgasmed I would get pleasure but it was very heavy and short lived. So maxing out the excitation peak I was capable of at the time I was able to get further temporarily but still ultimately did nothing after that. All of that implies there was a total insensitivity to hormones and neurotransmitters and/or that there was nothing being produced much at all as if my body had simply almost completely given up on producing anything. When I was at my worst and largely chair bound besides what I could physically force but be in complete agony. I was not even able to feel hunger or thirst never mind skin sensations or much temperature. Ability to sweat was also completely turned off. So on that note I swing towards my body not being able to endogenously produce anything anymore but it could have or could also been total insensitivity to everything unless levels became absurdly high like what happened with the early orgasm physical pleasure peak at orgasm thing.
Currently orgasms are normal and I don’t need to go there but if I then I feel like my brain is going to explode in a good way and I get the relief after. Wet dreams instead of just morning woods have also come back along with accidentally auto fantasizing in bed every time I’m comfortable. I’ve never been so happy to have sex-somnia. I notice like on nights like this where I ate a bunch of trash that things aren’t as reactive temporarily but everything still remains and I can’t seem to crash anymore. I’ve put as much stress on my internals this week as I have in months and if this thanksgiving week long vacation blow out didn’t permanently push me back then I don’t think anything will at this point short of restarting lions mane or saw palmetto itself.