Hey guys, I have been putting on some muscle. Im about 8 months off finasteride. Im about to start a pretty intense routine (6 days a week). Its the old Arnold routine, you can google it. Should I jump into this yet? Or am I in danger of over doing it? I feel like my current routine simply isnt enough…
Thanks.
dude, if you can do that, try some yoga. endocrine rejuvenation, etc etc
One thing I’ve seen across many recoveries is working out. If you can tolerate it (a lot of guys can’t) I’d say go for it.
So far so good. Its not as much as I thought it would be. Its 6 days on, one day off. 5 sets of 6 exercises. I superset them, so its really like only 3. Im only in the gym around 45 min to an hour. But I feel great on this routine. Get in, get it done, and keep with it
Its weird because I feel normal again. I was suicidal several months ago. I feel like I have my life back. Im still shaken up from the whole ordeal, it cost me a job, a semester in school, a student officer position, etc. But I dont see this stopping me from living a happy normal life again. And its caused me to re evaluate my life. I no longer drink alcohol, its been over 3 months. This has helped tremendously.
So mich for that. Just when i feel good i have a day like today. I guess i need to get used to living with this. Not knowong how ill feel one day to the next. Very hard to adapt to this. I feel helpless some days.
how could 10 pills alter my life so dramatically?
Recovering from PFS isn’t “on day X you recover and you feel recovered forever from that day forward.” I’ve read a lot of recovery stories and they all say recovery is a rollercoaster. You’ll have a good day, followed by two weeks of shitty days. Then two good days, then more shitty days. Eventually, over time, that reverses itself. A month ago I had a series of a few days where I felt normal, then a couple weeks where I wanted to drive my car into a wall. Then the other day I had sex for the first time in months. It sucks, but you have to hang in there and keep at it. Progress is going to be very, very slow and erratic, but if you keep at your routine, progress will come. The fact that you felt normal at all, for any amount of time, shows your body is wrestling with the condition, trying to correct things. Keep at it, bro.
I understand. But surely the thoughts of suicide must go away at some point. I cant imagine all tghe people on here are having suicidal thoughts every day of their life? Or do you just learn to ignore those thoughts and try to live your life?
I mean I feel like Im doing everything I can to be happy and positive. But my brain chemistry wont cooperate with my rational mind. THose thoughts still crop up, and its disturbing to me. Maybe i need to switch my antidepressant.
Trust me a routine like that is the last thing you want. There’s very little chance your body is in any kind of condition to put up with the stress after what i’m sure it’s been though over the last few months. You will need to watch out for adrenal fatigue, i would suggest the Drew Baye method -which i’m currently following, it works really well. Unfortunately his approach has been so successful in boosting my testosterone that its kicked off my gyno again. Just can’t win 
Cando - can you point me to a summarized version of the Baye workout? Or, can you reply with what your workouts include and how often?
I do a 5 set, 5-to-6 rep routine every other day, alternating the following lifts:
.Bench
.Squat
.Pull-ups or Lat Pull-downs
.Deadlift
.Military Press
The idea is to train harder but train less. It may sound strange but he recommends a workout composed of just 1 set of around 5 exercises. The point is that you can lift heavier with this single set of 8-10 reps, but, and this is key, you have to really push yourself, the workout begins when the pain starts, you should be at the point where you would be physically incapable of squeezing out another repetition in good form even with a gun to your head, and that’s after around 10 reps as i said, so make them slow - at least 6 seconds per rep, make them heavy - so you can perform no more than 10 or so and make sure you’re using good form.
this is a sample workout plan from his website: “http://baye.com/start-here/what-is-high-intensity-training/”
Basic push/pull/legs & abs split:
Push (Chest, Shoulders & Triceps)
1. Bench Press, Chest Press or Dip
2. Standing Press or Shoulder Press
3. Chest Fly
4. Lateral Raise
5. Triceps Extension
Pull (Back & Biceps)
1. Chin Up or Pulldown
2. Row
3. Dumbbell or Machine Pullover
4. Shrug
5. Barbell Curl or Bicep Curl Machine
Legs & Abs
1. Barbell Squat or Leg Press
2. Stiff-Legged or Leg Curl
3. Leg Extension
4. Calf Raise
5. Trunk Curl
I do a variation on this, the great thing is that this method allows you to release some serious testosterone but as the workouts are no longer than 30 minutes each and should be performed at least two days apart from one another it is not too hard on your cortisol levels either, so ideal for a psf sufferer looking to boost his recovery without putting too much pressure on the adrenals. I have felt so switched on in the last week, could feel the testosterone pumping through my veins, unfortunately for me as i said it has raised my t so much that my gyno has flared up, i’m intending to tackle this by working out less frequently, perhaps even once a week (Baye is generally an advocate of longer rest periods in any case) and hope that my body becomes accustomed to its new state, perhaps aided by some natural aromatase inhibitors.
I highly recommend giving it a try, i never knew how hard it was possible to push myself in just one set of each exercise!
cando, won’t massive weight loss help you with estrogen levels? and is your gynecomastia only fat or do you have brest gland tissue? is your prolactin ok?