When does the anxiety stop?

[cdnuts]

I’m curious about that myself. Any anxiety or sleep issues?

[cdnuts]

Oh, and good luck on the website.

[kirrabeachbum]

@YaEatChickenSOWHAT

@kirrabeachbum

Does anyone know of any interactions between soy and Propecia? It’s interesting to note that in terms of my Propecia experience, I had no side effects for the first 2+ weeks, and it wasn’t until that 3rd week when slurred speech came about, and that was the same week I started drinking soymilk like crazy (I remember this because I moved back to the US at this point). Soy is obviously healthy, right? This is probably a tenuous connection at best right?

I know of no scientific connections linking soy and finasteride exactly that could validate what I’m saying, so this is just an educated guess. I am not condoning a soy-free diet or giving any personal opinion away on the matter, merely guessing as to the interaction of soy and finasteride.

But as the study I posted from Harvard Medical School shows, men who consumed heavy amounts of soy daily, had up to 41 million less sperm than those who did not consume soy products. IT COULD BE, and this is pure speculation not fact or something you should follow without more knowledge , that Propecia, which inhibits the production of DHT, and the consumption of soy (showing a proportional relationship to estrogen increase–more soy, more estrogen according to study), exacerbated the estrogen build-up thus creating problems mentally and/or sexually. Nevertheless, this is only a guess at best but could explain why Soy could have “triggered” these symptoms. The question I’d like to know is HOW MUCH SOY DID YOU CONSUME? This could have a correlation identifying with the study I posted earlier by the Harvard Medical School.

It could also be just coincidence.

Yes–soy is more or less healthy for an individual. You should research more to see what you can come up with.

I started Propecia May 9 while living in South Africa, and when I moved back to the US on May 24th, I starting consuming soy. I first noticed slurred speech/tripping over words that third week I was on Propecia, right after Labor Day around May 28th. Honestly, I’d say one or two of those soy cartons per day. I want to say each carton is like a half gallon, or 4 servings of soy as indicated on said carton. I’d usually drink the EdenSoy shelf ones and sometimes the Silk. But yea I consumed a ton from that period of time until the present, which is October 14th, so 10+ weeks later.

[kirrabeachbum]

@Mew

I had slurred speech/tongue tripping by the time I came off after 11 months, which continued for at least 8 months after… but slowly started clearing up as time went on. Now it’s a minor issue if/when it pops up 3 yrs off.

Definitely due to the drug, I do not consume soy products.

Where did I read that side effects from propecia were irreversible? I’m not sure if that’s even true, but if so, was that only pertaining to sexual side effects?

[YaEatChickenSOWHAT]

@kirrabeachbum

@YaEatChickenSOWHAT

@kirrabeachbum

Does anyone know of any interactions between soy and Propecia? It’s interesting to note that in terms of my Propecia experience, I had no side effects for the first 2+ weeks, and it wasn’t until that 3rd week when slurred speech came about, and that was the same week I started drinking soymilk like crazy (I remember this because I moved back to the US at this point). Soy is obviously healthy, right? This is probably a tenuous connection at best right?

I know of no scientific connections linking soy and finasteride exactly that could validate what I’m saying, so this is just an educated guess. I am not condoning a soy-free diet or giving any personal opinion away on the matter, merely guessing as to the interaction of soy and finasteride.

But as the study I posted from Harvard Medical School shows, men who consumed heavy amounts of soy daily, had up to 41 million less sperm than those who did not consume soy products. IT COULD BE, and this is pure speculation not fact or something you should follow without more knowledge , that Propecia, which inhibits the production of DHT, and the consumption of soy (showing a proportional relationship to estrogen increase–more soy, more estrogen according to study), exacerbated the estrogen build-up thus creating problems mentally and/or sexually. Nevertheless, this is only a guess at best but could explain why Soy could have “triggered” these symptoms. The question I’d like to know is HOW MUCH SOY DID YOU CONSUME? This could have a correlation identifying with the study I posted earlier by the Harvard Medical School.

It could also be just coincidence.

Yes–soy is more or less healthy for an individual. You should research more to see what you can come up with.

I started Propecia May 9 while living in South Africa, and when I moved back to the US on May 24th, I starting consuming soy. I first noticed slurred speech/tripping over words that third week I was on Propecia, right after Labor Day around May 28th. Honestly, I’d say one or two of those soy cartons per day. I want to say each carton is like a half gallon, or 4 servings of soy as indicated on said carton. I’d usually drink the EdenSoy shelf ones and sometimes the Silk. But yea I consumed a ton from that period of time until the present, which is October 14th, so 10+ weeks later.

Hmm, that’s a ton of soy, yeah. They said in the Harvard Medical School study (the one I refer to earlier, link provided), that the men with low sperm counts were those eating more than 4 servings a day. This could have something to do with it, Propecia COULD have exacerbated it–higher estrogen maybe?

All speculation based on the Harvard study–but you should research it more, as there could be an important correlation present.

[kirrabeachbum]

I’m going to stop with the soy as of right now and lay off for a couple weeks and see if that gets me anywhere. For the record, does anybody know why soy could potentially lower sperm count i.e. what the mechanisms of action are?

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Check out the above article as well…interesting…