What is current rate of hair loss post fin?

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What is the rate of hair loss now that users have stopped taking fin? I was a long time user and stopped approximately 18 months ago. I lose a few hairs in the shower but have not developed the oily, flakey, itchy scalp that I had prior to taking fin. I think it took about 2-3 years for this to go away completely.

I’m still using Neutrogena T-gel shampoo to clean the scalp. However another symptom of long term sides for me is decreased hair loss. Nothing visible over the last 18 months whereas before I would rub my hands through the hair for 15 seconds and 50 hairs would fall out on my desk. Now it’s closer to 3.

Guess this is a sign that DHT is not at the level it was prior.

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I can confirm your observation, too.
I think this topic has been addressed somewhere here.
I am off fin for ~ 7 years but don’t lose hair at all.
The same is true for JN as far as I remember.
The level of DHT in my case is pretty good, it is not ‘low’. So the pure level might not be the answer.
The role of DHT in hair loss is anyways not clear. I can think of estrogen/DHT imbalance maybe as a cause for the absent hair loss some experience here.
However, I remember some members here who report quite some hair loss but haven’t recovered from their sides either. It seems to be another side effect indeed. Cytochrome reported that he had an onset of hair loss when he started to recover. Maybe these issues belong together somehow.
But, it is really ridiculous that I don’t lose any hair for years. Clearly a sign that something is fucked up though my hormones look ok so far.

I actually lost some hair when I was taking Propecia. It worked really well initially, then the side effects really kicked in. I had a rather stressful job at the time, so I don’t know if that can be attributed to it.

I dont’ believe I have lost any hair since quiting though. One thing a lot of you guys might find interesting is I actually quit this drug once before and then after being off of it for 6 months my hair started falling out again. I began taking it again.
At that time I had no idea about other side effects, the non sexual ones were related to the drug. When I found this website I realized the magnitude of what this drug had done to me. I have now been off of it longer than I was initially, almost a year now and really no hair loss to speak of. This could also be proof that the longer you take this med, the worse you will likely be.

I would also believe that when you really begin to recover, it makes sense that your hair loss would resume.

The first day of my short-lived complete recovery was also the first day that I had hair show up on my palms in the shower in as long as I can remember. I’ve shaved my head since then, but I don’t think my hair loss is nearly as present as it once was, if at all.

Come to think of it I experienced this a couple times in the last year. Days where I was feeling pretty good/normal and had hair on my palms after shampooing.

Used to have a ton of hair every shower Pre-Fin.
Now 1 or 2 if I’m lucky.
I mean lucky because I wish it was able to fall out.

Androgenic hairloss doesn’t work in the way you are describing. This is a widespread misunderstanding.

Even in people without hairloss, hair is falling from the head all the time. Follicles work in cycles, and at the end of a cycle the hair falls out. This happens at a pretty steady rate.

When you have androgenic hairloss, it’s not that your hair is falling out faster. Your hair continues to fall out at the same rate. It’s just that now, the follicles are under androgenic attack. The next hair they produce is thinner. The one after that, thinner still. Eventually they produce only a tiny, very thin hair. Then no hair at all.

This is the basic mechanism behind androgenic hairloss. DHT and the other factors involved do not cause hair to fall out. Hair falls out anyway. They cause follicles to replace the fallen hair with a thinner hair.

You can’t measure your rate of hairloss by the hair you see in the plug, or whatever. It doesn’t work like that. There was the same amount of hair in your plug before you started losing hair, you just weren’t looking for it.

This is just incorrect. When hair is falling out rapidly on the top of the head you see it in the shower - the cycles are much faster! Then new hair grows back in finer. So every time it falls out it’s being replaced by something smaller. You can measure it like this. I think most people on this forum would agree. That was the depressing thing that led me to start taking fin in the first place, hands COVERED in hair when I shampooed. My hair grows really quickly. Still the sides grow quickly but I no longer have hair on my hands when I shower. If your theory were correct I would still have lots of hair in my hands when I showered, no? I’m looking for it now and my hair is thicker than it was when I started fin. I wish it was there but it just isn’t :frowning: