What has given you a temporary recovery?

I’ve taken a number of things that have temporary cured me of mental problems for a few days. What has worked for you guys?

Iodine
Intense excersise after stopping all excersise for a month
Vitamin D
Maca
Magenisum

are some of mine that returned my mental function to normal for a few days… they seem to have lost their effect now. After taking Maca it returned my erections and libido to 80 percent of what it used to be! It was amazing. Stopped working now though :frowning:

Pregnenolone gave me a full blow recovery in all areas for 5 days but since faded away - I was literally ready to put this all behind me.

You should maybe look into tweaking things here. If something works maybe you did something right (clearly, you did) but then you lsot the balance again.

It’s trial and error, i suppose.

I would really like to hear others’ responses to this. I’ve heard of corticosteriods, maca and other herbs, clomid, TRT, and a few other things causing temporary recoveries but I’d like to hear the specific stories.

What confuses me the most is why they cause temporary recoveries. What is it in our systems that reset to 0 every time we find something that revs us back up? It is beyond mind-boggling. How could this possibly be??

I think this is attributable to our newly “downregulated” and “stable” state. That’s right, out HPA defaults are now different. This is why we all really need something resembling a HPTA restart to shock the endoctrine system back into its original position. Either that, or a slow baby-step process that will gradually reset over time.

Easier said than done.

I have ordered more tubs of pregnenolone, but apparently I may need to add T3 (gonna be difficult for me in the UK). Also I take unrefined salt to help with sodium and potassium levels.

www.anti-estrogens.com

UK20
how do you apply prognenolone. Is it a cream? Do you apply it daily or weekly. For how long would you take it.
I would like to give it a try.
Thanks for any help

I’ve had days when I’ve felt temporarily cured, but I couldn’t put my finger on what caused it.

On one occasion, I did just come off a course of antibiotics (cipro).

Now I’m more diligent about noting what I take so if I do have a “normal” day, I can decipher what brought it on.

visionquest99, did you take Cipro? If yes, how long did you take it? I am also considering taking it. However, I am a bitt worried about the side effects.

I have a congenital condition that makes me prone to kidney/urinary infections.

My “go to” antibiotic for these infections is cipro. I’ve consumed a ton (months worth) and haven’t had any problems (and i’m sensitive to alot of other meds). I’ve tried to cut back only because of the general fear that overuse of antibiotics is bad, etc, but not because of any problems I’ve experienced. That said, everyone is different and as you’ll see HERE there are a wide array of opinions on cipro.

Iodine
Vitamin d
Magnesium
Marijuana
Exercise
Recovery from illness
Tyrosine
L arganine
Horny goat weed

These have all had temporary beneficial effects for me.

martinM,
I just have a question regarding horny goats weed. I bought it myself but I have read that the ingredients include saw palmetto, which seems to have a similar effect as finasteride (some people of this forum have developed the same side effects as from finasteride). Therefore I dropped this supplement. Can you give me some information about that.

Mew has posted about this on the forum. Get a brand without saw palmetto. I bought source naturals. Hgw is very similar to Viagra but less potent and risk of side effects.

Word of warning though it helped the first few times for me then increased my refractory period even more than normal.

I think, yes it is my opinion, we have got Auto immune disorder. Each time we get recovery , our immune system recognizes it and attacks with more force. Many people got relief from anti-inflammatory meds. Some people did not feel any thing for years on propecia and some got sc** on only one or two tabs. This all tells body reaction.

google autoimmune disorder and see how closely we fit to the symptoms for example have a look here.

thyroid-info.com/articles/autoimmune-checklist.htm

1 Like

This is a common misconception on this forum. If you experience a recovery that turns out to be temporary, your system has not “reset”, but has moved to a different state.

Example (on me, and possibly, UK20):

  1. My endocrine system is in state A
  2. I take pregnenolone and experience an almost full recovery within a day. My endocrine system has moved to state B
  3. Within 5 days, the improvement has weened off, pregnenolone doesn’t work anymore, and I feel (almost) exactly how I felt in state A. But at this point I am not in state A, I am in state C.

At the end of step 3, even if I feel like in state A, I cannot be in state A. If I was in state A, then I could improve for 5 days by taking pregnenolone, which is not the case (hope it makes sense). And if you think about replying “maybe you develop a tolerance to pregnenolone”, Dr Crisler says that this doesn’t make sense.

In my particular case, blood tests and a saliva test show that the set back was caused by an exhaustion of my thyroid hormones, due to an increase of cortisol obtained via pregnenolone supplementation.

The bottom line is that, when you experience a set back, it is not a step backward, but a step forward. So don’t be frustrated if you feel that something “stopped” working. It most likely hasn’t stopped working; it still works, but your system is trying to get back to the (bad by stable) loop it was in.

Excellent post and it complements what i was saying in another thread. People are too quick to conclude things “dont work” or that we are “different”. Truth is, our bodies are messed up and its not as simple as ABC. It’s difficult to attain the level of supervision that one needs to deal with these speedbumps, though. That’s the real difficulty.

Shocking my brain has helped me

I am using an alpha-stim scs for about a month now and the improvements I’ve made have been astonishing. It is cranial electrotherapy stimulation technology. Unlike other things I’ve tried the results seem long lasting. After the first three weeks the first thing that went was the anhedonia. No more flat moods!
Next I started feeling long periods of mild arousal. This has been going on for two weeks now. I predict that I’ll be permanently cured and ready to put this all behind me in one month

Of course I have said that many times before :smiley:

joetz - Could you provide some details on alpha-stim scs? Do you do it your self or under a doctors care? What does it involve? What are the theories behind it?

It’s cranial electrotherapy stimulation technology. There is a ton of stuff on youtube and google on it. It’s used to treat depression without the nasty SSRI side effects.

It’s really hard to get the unit without a doctor prescribing it. I was bidding on mine on ebay until ebay cancelled the auction. They cancel auctions on anything that isn’t available without a prescription. Finally I just found someone on the internet who was willing to sell me his privately.

I suppose you could find a doctor that prescribes these things and maybe get your insurance company to pay for it.

I always felt like the problem is more neurological. My gaba channels which control sleep and anxiety seemed to be the hardest hit.