What happened to me? I Scared!

[Demon]

Ciao! It will do this,Thanks!

[Demon]

@iull1k

Do you have emotional blunting because of stress, or you woke up blunted and after this you noticed penis numbness? Thank you

iull1k wake up in the morning like this, my penis was dead. I had no anxiety before.

[Mercked]

Probably quite unsafe to do anything more than intermittent fasting when you’re chronically sleep deprived?

[kon93]

So alpha lipolic acid standalone is not safe for use? I got floxed on top of pfs and people said it helped, i was about to order some… your post might have saved me

[noprop]

I don’t understand your post completely. What is unsafe and for whom?

[Mercked]

Sorry, I mean how much fasting, if any, would be safe to do if you’re chronically sleep deprived and/or have insomnia?

[axolotl]

@kon93

people said it helped, i was about to order some… your post might have saved me

Such reports of it helping would fit with what I set out here:

Has anyone tried Saw Palmetto or fin after developing pfs?

Hey jjbunch, It’s a very interesting observation and one going back over a decade that people with PFS can sometimes have their symptoms improve temporarily or, more rarely, permanently with 5 alpha reductase inhibitors or substances with anti androgenic properties. They can also dramatically worsen PFS and introduce a much more severe condition. People have claimed improvement by turmeric, zinc, progesterone, finasteride (in the case of an accutane case, which is likely the same condition), nu…

It is of course a significant risk to use antiandrogenic substances, as it is clear different cases of PFS are much more susceptible to a permanent worsening via interaction with the androgen pathway than others. It’s everyone’s choice as to what to pursue therapeutically but I believe it is important to be aware of this unmistakable pattern and its alignment with the current scientific understanding. If you read that post and then what goes on to happen when he tries it, I think that’s a case in point. Or this, half an hour ago:

How many people suffer from PFS and do you think there will be a cure soon?

I think I may have had a similar experience. I had a few days of considerable improvement seemingly out of the blue. The only thing I could relate it back to was that I had been drinking large amounts of nettle tea in the days leading up to it. From what I’ve googled, nettle tea is anti-androgenic, in the same way that aniseed tea is. Some kind of hormesis perhaps?

[kon93]

no no you misread I said it offered relief for a different condition called getting floxed, which is “poisoning” from a class of antibiotics and as I suffer from both now[pfs and that] (my uro prescribed me huge doses of ab’s coz of finasteride induced prostatitis and i stupidly took them), so I was interested in using it and almost ordered it and im glad i stumbled upon your post

[axolotl]

Ah I see, well a quick search shows it apparently holds true regardless. This is last week:

Neuropathy Treatment? R-alpha lipoic acid + B complex

Greek, it is helping with most of my symptoms, including sexual function, digestion/bowel issues. Yes I need to take it regularly (400mg to 600mg per day) otherwise the effects wear off. I was hit hard by finasteride side effects, so i do not expect a 100% recovery. If I could get a 70 to 80% recovery, I’d be happy with that.

[noprop]

Very good question.
I can say the following: there are two ways of IF:
one doing it irregurarely and one regurarely.
The first one means doing it 1-2 times a week. And then refeeding for 2-3 days = eating 2-3 times a day.
The other way seems clear. But when to eat? Test it. Maybe evening is not bad (but not too late) It could be easier to fall asleep.

For sleep: I would never take drugs for sleep.
Better: GABA, phosphatidylserin, melatonin (try low dosages first like 1-2 gr.), going for a walk in the morning for 30 minutes. Some guys say L tryptophan and 5htp could work also.

You must try and see what helps.