Viagra Usage And Impotence

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#1

Hi all,

It’s my first time here. I’ve been reading all the time this forum from 2009 until this time. I’ve always had a bad mood when I read the topics and always closed the tabs and gone. However been back after a while again to look if there is a cure and then again tried to ignore all the time and gone.

But, it’s big but, I’m done! I cannot hide my head under the sand and ignore this issue which took 9 years from me.

When I was 21, in July of 2009, I don’t want to go into details a lot, the rest is as you know, I was so healthy and had a great sexual activity like almost everyone in here I guess. I took propecia in order to prevent hair loss(which was not the case indeed, I’m thinking how ignorant I am, anyways). I took it for only 5 days, from monday to friday. Then I’ve had a total crash. Even I cannot remember how did I go into this black hole which totally ruined my life. I haven’t noticed that at that time, because they told me(like everyone) that the symptoms, were temporary and they were supposed to gone. Time after time, I’ve always had a feeling that my body will beat this by itself and I would go to back as normal. Guess what? It’s been like 9 years and I’m where I’ve started. Things went worse even sometimes and then went back normal(I mean normal crash times, not the healthy normal, think about that I’m calling normal crash!!!).

I focused my business life during these times, haven’t interested so much with other things like sex(can you imagine?) and thankfully I have really good business success at this moment and I’m sure I’ll be doing much better with our startup which currently we have offices in 4 countries in Europe. Am I happy? Not exactly, and how can I be though? But nevertheless I say all the time, life goes on one way or another.

I’ve been to several doctors during this time, first was in 2009, they had a full blood test and everything was normal(for them! not me) and it was my obsession that doctor told me, in 2014 the same. Like I told you, I was playing as blindfolded and not to think about. Even though, some weeks in a year I was into the issue with forums like here, I was able to get back to life.

I was having masturbation as long as I can take and during the day or some night I could feel the boner and get erected. But none of them has happened without touch. There was always a physical touch needed to start. I dated with a few girls for the last few year because I could erect easily with touch, kiss, smell etc. Of course those erections were very far away than my normal erections, however at least I could please them and I could even go hard for a long time(not like when I was pre-fin but almost let’s say, pity). But, I’ve had a really big problem with my flaccid penis which was so small and shrinked like I was 90 years old. Therefore, it’s a problem with being comfortable with your boxer(if your boxer is tight), God what we are talking about now! It’s so sad, I know, anyways.

This year, in 2018, two weeks ago I’ve certainly decided to go to doctor committee here in Netherlands and find the best cure that I can have, which can be fixing the size of flaccid penis, getting more libido, trying to make connection from brain to penis etc. I just wanted to be show up, whatever it costs and takes.

I had an appointment with my GP last week and he told me to send me over a really good hospital which is well known in Europe for a detailed therapy and wrote a letter. I took letter from him and also he prescribed a Viagra(or Sildenafil) because of my request as well. Because, I just wanted to try with my gf(which is another mistake I guess).

Tuesday, I took 100 mg Viagra at night in order to be together with my gf. Firstly it seemed worked very well, I mean I was really went hard for a long time and even I could go for second time after ejeculation which was miracle for me, I was sooo happy. But something was wrong, from the start of arousal, I could not be able to feel my penis, I was touching it but not like the other times, my penis was really hard but it was like not natural, something injected to penis and then my penis went like this, I felt in this way. However, it was good to enjoy sex at this moment. And then, next morning I woke up with boner again, I was so happy, even though it was like a fake penis(which I could not feel the sensitivity), it was so good. Even though during shower I could be able to easily make it hard whenever I want, it was enough to think. I mean this was really magic for me, as I’ve thought. It was my first time to use such a drug and I did not care the none-sensitivity in the first place. However, then my penis went flaccid again to smaller size like in the crash. But, this time there was a difference. I could not be able to feel still when I touch my penis! Normally even though I have a crash I could easily make it top with touch. I was shocked. I could not be able to get a hard erection, it was very soft. It happened yesterday, during the day I felt like to go to pee all the time, urinate in my penis(it feels like urinate flows in your penis but does not come out), a bit pain in penis sometimes and sort of. I managed somehow this yesterday and thought it’s temporary. But today, it was the same during the day at the office, I could not be able to get anything even though I touch my penis, it was like totally numb.

And, this evening I’m shocked that I could not even masturbate anymore which have never happened so far in my crash. Whenever I want to masturbate, I had it, good or bad, does not matter. I’ve had it. But this time, it was never the case, my penis did not even move!!

Then I went to hospital urgently, in order to see what’s going on! Because I cannot stand with this, the crash is ok somehow that I manage it but be not able to masturbate or getting hard was like totally frustrating.

I’m coming from hospital now, the doctor told me that there is nothing to worry, it can be getting better day by day because of the sensation with blood vessels and I took the max. dosage(100 mg).

But I don’t know, what’s going to happen! The pill that you take which is supposed to give you better sex time makes you crash again?? Can viagra make this crash? I thought I had a mild crash but now feels like totally crash. Is it possible with Viagra? Is there anyone who had the same experience more or less?

I feel so bad now and don’t know when it’s going to be normal! Or will it be?

My penis is numb, I cannot feel.(normally, flaccid penis that I’ve had in my crash was the same but at least it was reacting, right now that’s not even case.)

It was a long post, sorry for my mistakes grammarly. I just wanted to share it with you for the first itme, I feel so bad.

Kind regards,

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#2

Anyone here to reply? Please, I need help. I’ll be going to doctor but feel so bad. Viagra made me much worse than ever, I cannot even feel my penis. It’s something totally removed from my body, there is not functionality, What did I do to myself? I cannot believe it. It is the first time that I feel totally crashed. But could Viagra do that? Please, anyone know something about it? I know there are really knowledgable people in here. Please.

#3

Hi there J
I can see you are in a state of shock please calm down I’m sure you are going to be ok mate also please Don’t be beating yourself up for having post finasteride problems and ignoring them I’m sure hundreds if not thousands of guys do the same I for one burried my head in the sand it was years after the problems started that I actually went to talk to a Doctor about them.
I have to admit that I too would come on this board read what people had written and knew within myself that it all added up the guys here were having the exact same problems as myself but just like you I wouldn’t join the board and discuss these issues instead I hoped that they would sort themselves out in the end.
I have used Viagra for years to be honest its been a life saver as I had trouble getting things erect from the start from the first tablet to the last some 5 years plus later and ever since stopping finasteride things have still remain the same way without viagra I get zero erections under any circumstances nocturnal or stimulated it doesn’t make any real difference and when I’m with my partner of 5 years now I barely get semi erect no matter what she does until I have taken Viagra trust me this is highly frustrating for us both buy life goes on mate and my partner understands.
Viagra has possibly exhausted you mate as it has possibly put you back into a pre finasteride state and your body / penis wasn’t use to it. You have been quite lucky to some degree as many guys on here and on the internet in general have and myself have had this the numb sensation from the start or end of finasteride you will hear guys complaining of cold to touch I understand exactly what they are saying the penis is at a different temperature which doesn’t add up but I assure its certainly true. From what I have read from your post you have not mentioned this issue and you have been ok to masturbate just not like in a pre finasteride state.
All in all it sounds like you should be ok in a few days .
What would be helpful to people on this board is if you fill in the my story section so people can get a better understanding of the side effects finasteride has left you with over the past nine years this will help people to get a better picture of your post finasteride condition and advise accordingly.
Try not to stress at this point mate you have overcome the barrier you have been to see doctors and spoken about the issues.

If you need a chat your welcome to private message me anytime.

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#4

P.s
There’s alot of guys on this board just looking and not really saying much but the guys that do talk are informative friendly and highly supportive.
No one has a cure to put us back to pre finasteride condition which is frustrating but doctors are working on this.
I know it’s all very sad mate finasteride takes our sex life and our libido and even gives us memory problems yet it all seems to be a mystery as to why and why only some guys and not all.
I hope ive helped in some way to calm you down mate

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#5

Thank you so much Bazz44uk for your reply. It means a lot.

You’re totally right about our fear to show up right on time. I feel ashamed sometimes though. The suffer that we have will not be ending by just hiding, I know it. That’s why I wanted to go to committee for sexual disorders as well. I will give them all the informations, will explain what I’ve been through with this.

I know I’m in a shock because it never happened before to me, I woke up at 4 am could not be able to get rid of my mind. My penis is at the same size like before(it looks shrinked) however it never feels the same, I cannot feel my penis when I touch it and never get any arousal from it. This is the first time that I’ve ever had. Nothing happens and I feel like my body is changing like to another. I can feel my breast is getting bigger etc. It all happened in a day. I cannot believe it. After viagra, I’m crashed like a hell. I don’t know if it’s physiological or psychological.

I’ll go to a doctor in an hour.

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#6

Have you ever tested your dht? Your story is scary as I have the same symptoms with 5 days of usage…

#7

Long ago, they have tested for testosterone and levels were avarage. But they did not look for DHT or I cannot remember, all I can remember was doctor told me I had to give a time.

It’s not about dosage I think, it can take effect even though usage of one day, it’s a pure poison.

I’m 30 now and feel so bad. I have not been any theraphy so far, but will give it a try. I used only viagra in this week and it totally smashed me up.

#8

That’s ok mate im happy I could help
Not alot of help i may add lol :grin: but support can be a great help in itself.
Let’s be honest its not easy talking about internet things but that’s the beauty of this board it has no faces but does have ears people will listen :ear:and try to help out.
I should of joined years ago as I probably drove myself insane some days talking to myself about what was happening the problem it self is bad enough you know being a guy its knocks you for six.
I tried to talk talk to a doctor years ago but it got me nowhere I have also tried again more recently that didn’t get me far either he advised Calais 5mg or 5mg of viagra a day to see if that corrected things i tried for a couple of weeks but made no real difference so I now have an appointment with a specialist in march .

The above options maybe worth a try for yourself mate

Keep in touch matey

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#9

Above message was a reply to your pm
Not sure why it was posted here mate
Sorry about that

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#10

I had the same issue, and lost sensitively after viagra, including much of what you described. The little bit of feeling I previously had eventually came back, Since then, for the few times I take it, I stayed on the lower dose of 25, but sometimes 50, and never back to 100. I will add with the viagra, if I achieve a second erection, it sometimes lasts a long time, allowing extended sex, but with no real sensation at all. Still, it is a good mental feeling knowing I may be bringing pleasure to my wife.

More recently, I have sensed a large improvement with amino acid supplements, as recommended by others, along with intermittent fasting and some weight loss, and some kegal excercises. Since starting these supplements, it’s been the first time since fin that I woke up with an erection about 75% of original, but much better than before, and it’s been almost consistent for the last two weeks.

The brain fog also seems to have improved a little bit, and this has improved my overall mood, and I’m hoping it lasts. The amount of ejaculate hasn’t increased, and sensitivity seems about the same, which is very little. It’s not very much, at all, but so much better than before. In two weeks, I’ll share this with my doctor, and take another blood test to see what the effects of all the amino acid supplements and other vitamins and minerals may be having.

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#11

Hi NewYorker
Thankyou for contributing to this post with supportive information.
This type of post gives people a sense of hope and Hope is all we really seem to have to hold onto we need it to support each other and ourselves.
I will try amino acids myself ive seen information on this a couple of times.
Would be great to hear how those blood tests come back please keep us informed.

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#12

Thank you for your reply! It means a lot.

Glad to hear that you’re going in a good direction and hope you’ll be doing the best! We are healthy people, will be handling all source of problems, life is beautiful. And like Albert Camus says, every day is a new chance and give up will not let you see if tomorrow has the solution. Every day is a chance, we never know maybe tomorrow will be a cure or let’s say something that will improve us in a very good level. I believe in that.

By the way, could you please tell us that what kind of supplements that you use? There are lots of topics and posts, but at least we can see in here what works for you, and we can give a try.

Kind regards,

#13

Hi there @j.vanzeeland

I’m sorry to hear about how you’ve been affected by finasteride. I’m glad however that you have joined us here and I’m interested to know how you get on with your doctors appointments. Please let us know how you get on and as others have said, this community is always here for you. Unfortunately we’re at a time where some of the medical community aren’t at the same page with regards to awareness and understanding, but this will slowly change as both we and the pfs foundation chip away at the ignorance and unknowns to get to the truth and a better life for all of us.

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#14

Hi Scotsman,

Thank you for your reply. I wish we could meet in another platform but nevertheless it’s too late huh?

Well, today I have not been to office, I went directly to Erasmus MC, here in Rotterdam NL, actually I was waiting for an appointment letter from hospital but unfortunately there are so slow. So, I went directly and told them that I need to see doctor immedieately! Thankfully, doctor had a time, I waited a bit. Then we talked, he was urologist by the way, we discussed what happened, of course he could not say anything exactly without looking reports. So, I gave a blood test and will take it next week. I will have an appointment with Andrology department on 14th November, unfortunately it’s too hard to find a private clinic here in NL, so everything works with appointment. Anyways, it seems like a very long time, I’ll see what’s going to happen.

It’s so pity that someone who is 30 years old looking for a medication in the hospitals for his stupid decision that he’ve made. I’m so angry to myself. Anyways…

I would like to see what is going on in my body! That’s so frustrating that I’ve used Viagra and symtopms worsened. That’s only crazy! I don’t know why, since Viagra has no affiliation with hormones or sth.

What I’ve realized right now that I came to home and tried to masturbate and with a lot effort finally I had a good erection but it was not hard that it was like last weeks(which that time I was in the crash as well). But I can see that my dick has enlarged, I don’t know if it’s due to Viagra or so, becuase I can see the blood vessels on it, seems a bit scary though(wish it could be so hard). I’m writing those things explicitly in order to let you know what’s going on.

What made me so bad is, I’ve lost all sensitivity on my penis, it’s like there is nothing in between my legs(at least this was not the case so far, that feels too bad). I don’t know if it’s because of Viagra or sth. Maybe imbalance for hormones?

The thing is, Viagra seems working for me but post effects are scary, I’m thinking to use it again because I will meet with my gf. Do you think it’s sensible? I can start with 25 mg.

Viagra is something makes you fake orgasm that’s all I can say and its post effects were so bad for me.

I don’t know, anyone here to advice? Do you think that I can harm my blood vessels? Or already did I?

Kind regards,

#15

Hi again,

After 2 days, wanted to update this post.

I’ve lost my penis feeling completely. I mean, it’s not like the old days,

In my crash for 9 years,

I’ve had a shrinked penis, wrinkled, numb etc.

But at least, when I touch it and with a bit effort I could masturbate or get hard, it was really easy and I’ve had my libido all the time even though I could not make a connection between my brain and penis, it was good to come home and watch some porn or sth and masturbate in order to relax.

After Viagra 100 mg that I took this Tuesday,

I lost my penis sensitivity, even though with my touch, it’s too hard to get erect and it’s always soft, soft as hell, I cannot feel my penis between my legs, alright I could not feel very much before than that as well, but it’s not like the same. My penis lost it’s weight, it is so light, it’s completely useless at this moment.

I’ve tried to masturbate a few times, it took a lot of effort and it’s not hard anymore, even though it’s in max size(which size is not bad), it does not give an enjoyment. Nothing.

I took Viagra 50 mg when I go to see my gf on Friday, it has worked again, I was very horny and get erected, but like I told you, I lost my all sensitivity on my penis. And when I don’t use Viagra, I don’t feel anything. I have 0 libido, normally before I use Viagra, it was very normal, I could get hard even though with kiss or sth.

That’s totally horrible, I don’t want you to make sad as well. Sorry, but you are the only one that can understand me.

I don’t know how Viagra completely ruined my all sensations and left my penis completely numb, light, small etc.

I have an appointment with doctor on 14th Nov, but I’m afraid it can be too late for me. I have suicidal thoughts a lot. Cannot stand with this.

I was used to get along with Finasteride crash for 9 years, at least I could masturbate etc, even though my flaccid penis was shrinked and my penis was cold as well. However, this is very different, I’ve never experienced such a bad mood. My libido is 0, penis useless like rubber and I feel something happening in my chest(like gynecomastia).

I don’t know what I’m supposed to do. I’ve used propecia only 5 days back in 2009 and suffering from this for a long time, however this time it’s much worse, I’ve lost all senses regarding of my male pattern.

Do I need to give a time to recover? I don’t know what’s going to happen, my penis is gone.

I don’t want to use Viagra all the time in order to get something and I cannot indeed, during the day etc.

I will appreciate if you have recommendations regarding of this. Has anyone experienced something like this? After Viagra, completely loss of sensitivity?

#16

Hi,

In the majority of cases here, as far as I can tell, people’s symptoms have fluctuated. Initial states often improve and stabilise. It’s entirely possible that you have done something which your body is trying to fix.

Your experience with Viagra is very recent. It’s too early to think your condition is permanent. Obviously it’s very distressing but you should give this some time.

I read a post yesterday from a guy who said he seriously considered suicide and a month later was so glad he didn’t as his situation had improved so much.

At the very least you should wait to see your doctor.

Between now and then you should not obsess about this and do your best to relax and stay calm. Stress will not help you.

Do any of your friends or family know about your position? Things got easier for me once I told my girlfriend and didn’t have to put up a front all the time.

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#17

Thank you so much for your reply.

Yes, it’s a very recent thing and unfortunately I had to take Viagra again 2 days ago in order to be with gf. Otherwise I don’t feel comfortable and my flaccid penis became like a rubber(in the past it was almost the same but at least it was reacting after touch it etc.).

I hope it will getting better though, but I’m afraid on the other hand use Viagra all the time.

Actually, I know that symptomps are pretty much fluctuated and have experienced some really bad days during 9 years and then got really felt good as well. So, I’m not someone panicked indeed. I was used to live with that.

However, this time it’s totally different it seems, there is no sensitivity with my penis. I feel like it’s gone right now and it’s soft and bending while masturbating, which was the never case before, in my crash.

I took Viagra in order to get more sustainable erections, not like this crash! That’s so sad.

No, none of my friends, families or gf knows it, I always try to hide it and I’ve did so far thankfully.

I don’t know how I’m gonna manage it from now on, seems so hard. Because without Viagra I feel no libido.

I’m trying to do my best in order to be strong. What makes me feel crazy is how come a pill that is supposed to be boosting up my performance can make me crash again? How? Ok, I can understand that finasteride is a poision and we had it once and suffering from it and it is imbalancing our hormones etc. But how come something that has no affiliation with hormones and performance booster affected to me. That’s why I’m so shocked and sad. It’s breaking my hope to believe any treatment furthermore.

#18

Maybe give it a rest for a while? Take some time off from sex and masturbation. I know you’ll be worried and want to test yourself but putting yourself mentally and physically through the stress isn’t worth it. Give yourself time to get better. If you had just run a marathon then broke your leg, the advice wouldn’t be to try and do another marathon a day later.

How do you think your girlfriend would react if you told her? This is a hard thing to cope with alone.

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#19

Some good advice there from Greek give yourself a break take time out physically and mentally also telling your partner can relieve some of the stress but you have to be tactful in this as it can be a bombshell.

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#20

i agree with the lads above

I dont think its the viagra thats the issue, i think its more likely that you “exhausted” yourself sexually

Ive had times when I was feeling great, pushed it too hard and thought i was cured, had sex multiple times in one night and then felt like shit for a few days after

I think you just need to relax for a bit and forget about it

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