"Using Testosterone for Muscle Gains"

Therapeutic Efforts Pharmaceutical
#1

Guys, I would like to share this article with you. I have been thinking about taking some TRT, and other things, to try to “pump up my prostate” so to speak, because we know that increased testosterone helps the prostate heal, recover, and regenerate, so I want to try something. Some sort of HRT.

Also, I have also always been quite a skinny guy. 6’ tall and thin i.e. 155 lbs, I’ll be honest, so when I read this article I thought to myself, hey I wanna try this.
!!And oh of course minus the finasteride??? Duhhhh…

Anyhow, I want to try this “cycle” however I just wonder where to get this stuff. Basically I would love to gain 20 lbs for once in my life! And see if increasing my testosterone for a time being will help me recover faster.

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#2

well that’s bollox.

when i did borcolli treatment for 1 week i felt a little stockier… felt like a tough guy :smiley:

T levels while on broc treatment were up to 35 (range … .for got what lower level was, but high range was 30).

got 2 spontaneous erections too :smiley:

#3

Yeah, I wanna try dude. Kick my T production and growth hormone back into full production mode!

I just wish I knew where I could get/order these meds.

#4

I would think it’s a bad idea, just because of the fact you’re suppressing your T levels, and seeing as you’re already prone to to bad things happening from hormonal disturbances whereas other people are not I would not chance it.

If you are to try it, then I hope you don’t mind needles, cause you have to inject it since that way it’s not as harsh on the liver, and PCT is a must.

But seriously, I think you’re speculating and going by theories too much, taking testosterone is no walk in the park, and should seriously be only a last resort. Not only that, but anabolic steroids are generally not recommended for anyone unless they have reached their genetic peak in regards to muscle mass and strength. Seeing as you’re about the same size as me at 6 feet 155 pounds, it’s really, really not a good idea to put any androgenic hormones in your body, it’s seriously not hard to gain muscle at this size, as long as you stay dedicated to working out and eat a lot (they’ve got herbal appetite inducing pills if you need them).

Seriously though, consider shelling out the dough to go see a good doctor, one of the ones that have been listed on this site. As much as I’ve been talking about recovering and whatnot, I’m seriously considering seeing Dr. Crisler just to make sure everything in my body is 100% okay, and that it will be like that for the rest of my non-senile life.

#5

Softie, you’re just a kid…
I just turned 32 years old, I know I cant believe it. I have been 155 since I was 18 !! I can eat like a horse 5 times per day, and work my butt off, and work-out, and still not gain more than 6 or 8 pounds.

Plus, it seems like I’ve just read about guys on here recovering from Testosterone. ALso, have read about Testosterone helping to rebuild the prostate, and “pump it up”.

Dude, I need to boost my T, and hope that my body recovers.
I am not afraid of it at this point.

I will try Clomid soon,
and in the meantime work on finding out where I can get the rest of these meds, online hopefully.
Btw, I may just try everything in about half the dosages listed in the protocol above.

SOftie, any advice or ideas te best place online to buy these things? I’m about to go browsing around, and asking questions, over on MesoRx board, because I think people should tell me over there, right? Do you have any idea where I can order these things from?

~B

#6

Well 32 is definitely older than being 20, but 32 is still an age where you can be in great shape. For most people, you don’t really start losing metabolism and start getting diagnosed with medical problems like diabetes and high blood pressure until you get to your 40s (possibly later if you can fight aging effectively). 32 is an age when most guys are capable of having good sex.

So don’t start thinking you’re getting old just yet, and don’t blame any of your problems on your age, because it just doesn’t happen like that.

Anyways, you are nuts if you want to attempt self-medicating with strong and dangerous substances. It’s been discussed on this forum before that TRT is a delicate process that requires monitoring and fine-tuning by a proffessional. If you don’t take HGC injections regularly your nuts will turn into raisins, and even with HGC, LH is suppressed, so basically you’re best off making a lifelong commitment and ending up with a bunch of track marks kinda like a heroin addict. There is also a massive flow-charts worth of hormonal pathways in the body, and just taking test might not restore all of them.

Of course you could try doing PCT yourself after taking test for a while, but keep in mind that PCT is not all it’s made out to be. Stuff like clomid and nolvadex are strong and toxic chemicals. They actually have sexual side effects while you are on them. These substances are also slowly becoming outdated for those very reasons. There are some drugs that are being developed and some that have been more recently released, look into and do a little research on Evista. Also, some bodybuilders don’t recover for years even with PCT, a few don’t recover ever.

Testosterone is a controlled substance in America, so if you’re gonna order it off the net you might as well have have some xanax, aderall, vicodin, and oxycontin to go along with it. Of course, I’m sure it’s possible to pull it off, it’s just not a good idea.

I have never looked into online pharmacies and do not know of such places, whether they be reliable or not. Even if I did know though, I wouldn’t tell you because in no way will I support you taking actions which will result in you doing even more harm to yourself than has already been done.

So don’t self-medicate and do the smart thing and actually get yourself checked out by a reputable doctor instead of taking chances and doing ridiculous things to yourself. Demand that the doctor gives you the tests that you want. If you think you have a shrunken prostate consider getting an x-ray of that whole section of your body, wouldn’t that be able to tell you something?

I remember you posted a hormonal lab from a while ago. Didn’t you have high estrogen? Getting everything straightened out and fixed might be simple and not require drugs. You just have to get checked out for it.

Also, don’t forget to take resveratrol!

#7

I’d rather drink wine instead.

I hear what ur saying. A lot of people take steroids. Its very common in all gyms, and not always such a big deal. As a matter of fact, Id be inclined to think that probably more men are prescribed Androgel than Propecia. ANyway, I think the purpose of this protocol above, if you read it carefully, is that it is a fairly light and safer cycle I believe than most body builders do, shooting themselves up with just about anything, and often with nothing else in combination. ALso, I think most guys who run into problems are those who abuse it for a long while.
Anyway, this conversation is good. I know I am still young. I’m also sure that once I find a wife, and start relaxing and living a simpler life, eating regularly ALL THE TIME then I probably will gain some weight, just as my older brother did. Although part of me still wants to do a few low dose cycles just to get “the pump!” because I don’t think its very dangerous.
My old roomate and brother in law used to do it, and he had a book of hundreds, and also used to tell me all kinds of stories. I think this written protocol here is safer, and more effective at the same time.

Peace