Just click the “quote” button at the top right of the post you want to quote. You’ll notice that by pressing that button you see some quote tags in square brackets, [], before and after the message. Just follow that syntax.
Thanks JC but how do you only qoute part of a post. I had already tried what you said but could only qoute the entire post. It’s tough being computer illiterate. You young people are probably laughing at me. I’d ask my kids but i don’t exactly want them to see this.
Basically for every piece of text you want to quote you need to follow this:
[ quote=“grail”] any text you want to quote goes here [ /quote]
[ quote=“grail”] you can quote some more text here if you’d like [ /quote]
You need to remove the space after the “[” in the above example for it to actually work. You can replace “grail” above with any username and you can have as many quotes as you want, like I have 2 above.
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Grail, just highlight the text you want to quote with your mouse cursor (hold down left mouse button and select the text), then press QUOTE button.
Your selected text will automatically be placed in quote tags for you.
If pointing out that he was wrong (again) is picking a fight than so be it. Would you rather nobody challenged him when he’s wrong ?
Now let me get this straight. You said before that reports Propecia raises T are rubish, now you say when you come off Propecia T levels drop. So which one is it ?
As you can see from my blood tests they did drop, back to the range I was in pre-Propecia.
If Propecia was really the poisin you make it out to be you would have 500,000 guys on this board. What Propecia does to a select “few” is unknown. I don’t have the answer, Doctors don"t have the answer yet and guess what, Hypo doesn’t have the answer either.
You know the situation now on Propecia because it was pointed out to you that it raised T, 3 days ago you claimed it lowered it.
Do you just like to make stuff up ? A lot of guys have problems and have normal free T , E2 and SHBG.
You only have a handfull of blood tests to deal with, how could you possibly come to any conclusion ?
Feel free to throw in a link to any of your statements. My guess is you will either ignore this or write some 20 minute post with multiple qoutes avoiding giving a straight forward answer
Nobody has the be-all, end-all answer to Post-Finasteride side effects. Regardless, please share with us what YOU believe could be the issues that prevent some men from recovering.
I would expect no less from someone like yourself stating you have extensive experience with hormonal treatments, designing cycles and PCT. Surely you must have SOME theories?
Same goes for you Jim, back up your claims with some proof and links. Otherwise this will fall into tit for tat arguing once again with no facts to back anything up.
Anyway I don’t think Hypo will be responding to any of this so it may all be a moot point anyway. Either way, post your ideas on what you think the problem may be, as well as some proof of YOUR CLAIMS – or don’t post at all.
The rest of us aren’t as well educated in this arena and would benefit from the knowledge you can share, via factual studies, links etc.
BTW, I’m surprised you’re back after you decided to quit this board in the first place by your own volition. Care to explain (besides “I’m just here to ‘correct’ Hypo”)?
Mew PLEASE feel free to ban me. If not then don’t question me when I correct a poster who has no idea what he is talking about.
I posted my thoughts many times. Run 500mg /week of cyp with 1/2 mg 2x’s a week of Arimidex for 8 weeks with proper PCT. If you still have ED issues during the cycle after week 3 you can 100 % rule out T, free T, DHT and E2 issues. E2 will be low and everything else will be through the roof and you should be thinking about sex 24/7.
VERY safe cycle and what do you really have to lose ?
BTW, I was aked my opinion and posted it, if you don’t want to try it then fine, no need to go any further.
I’m sure he won’t answer my questions also because he is wrong. He may go off on some 20 minute post to confuse some people but he won’t reply to me.
Hypo wants me out of here because nobody else calls him out when he is wrong. Trust me he likes knowing much more than anyone on the board. If he really wanted to help people he would be on a good men’t health forum but he would get exposed there so he stays where he is safe.
Like I said before chief, it’s your forum feel free to ban me
Ok, so what if they still have “Finasteride-related issues” once T, free T, DHT and E2 issues have been ruled out?
What then? Why would this occur despite doing a cycle as you prescribe above?
For us hormonal neophytes, what is cyp and PCT.
Secondly, I don’t mind you pointing out when someone’s wrong but it doesn’t have to be so antagonistic. Plus I have not seen you comment on blood test and help in other places.
Well it rules out T, Dht, FreeT, E2 as being the culprit. If that doesn’t work then I have no idea but like i said what is to lose
Testosterone Cypionate, post cycle therapy.
I have no idea where you blood test is located and I know hormones so I won’t comment on things I know nothing about
I have no problem whatsoever talking with people about finasteride or hormonal issues or answering any questions put my way when civility is maintained, you can ask any of the people I have spoken to via pm.
The problem here Jim is that because you are/have been so disrespectful and personally aggressive and abusive in your language I just don’t want to have anything to do with you.
I mean go through our various mails to one another, what is the worst that I have said to you on a personal level?
Irrespective of the merit of any point you could possibly make your behavior has just been unforgivable.
You have swore at me and called me for everything under the sun, tried to make fun of me for having had cancer….I’m mean come on Jim do you really expect me to want to talk with you after that?
I don’t think you are right in anything you have to say, but I would never have said the things you have said to me.
You have mentioned a few times that when you had a go at cancer, erection dysfunction/TRT, at gynecomastia etc. You have said that you were only having a go at me.
But Jim, it doesn’t work that way.
You can’t take the piss out of someone for having cancer and then say I was only taking the piss out of him. By doing that you are talking the piss out of every person that has ever had it- whether you like it or not.
Think about what you have done in just that Jim. No matter what is being spoken about, no matter how much you disagree with me or dislike me, I nearly died and you have thought it fitting because of a minor squabble to take the piss out of one of the most serious things that can ever happen to someone. Where is the scale and perspective in that?
You have insulted every person here by making fun or erectile dysfunction, by trying to poke fun of me for being on TRT. On which note like the gynecomastia I no longer have these problems, though why should I have been insulted even if I did?
You can’t expect to insult someone who you think suffers from say ed or gynecomastia and not expect people to be offended who are reading who might suffer from the very same thing.
Trying to take the piss out me in terms of ED is taking the piss out of dozens of people on this site.
If you hadn’t been so offensive I could talk with you no matter how much disagreement there was, I can’t do that now. I am not running away from what you have to say- I just can’t talk to you period.
I’ll answer any question from anyone else put to me in pm, but I am not dealing with you any further. You can play in the gutter by yourself, you don’t need me for that- I’ll take the mud you sling in silence from here on in.
Yea, so besides offering that little crumb of PCT advice (which by the way any noob could find on any bodybuilder website), you have nothing else to contribute? No theories on how Finasteride could cause these problems?
I don’t get it Jim, why you are even here in the first place… Not only are you STILL on Finasteride WITHOUT any sexual dysfunction issues (this forum is not meant for guys still on the drug), not only do you barely explain anything when you post (a few sentences at most), but you come out of nowhere and blatantly attack guys like Hypo (with no backstory or context setting whatsoever for the rest of us), who at the very least proposes some form of theory as to what might have happened to us… then when the same is asked of you, you’ve got NOTHING to say besides “try this PCT and if it doesn’t work, sorry! I don’t know what else to tell you.”??
Yea, some help you are, I can see you’re VERY knowledgeable about such things. Riiight… give me a fucking break.
I checked your history and posts, you’re also Cathylou123 from the old Yahoo forum, and just as likely “lou123” from MesoRX. When it comes to Finasteride issues, you say the same things there as you do here – “try PCT, if it doesn’t work – sorry! Got nothing else for ya”. What a bunch of bullshit. Why don’t you try using all of that so-called knowledge you’ve amassed and write an essay as to what you think might be the problems here, or how to treat them failing PCT?
Also, care to explain why your IP resolves to 129.176.151.21? As you know, 129.176.151.21 is the Mayo Foundation, ie Mayo Clinic/Mayo.edu.
Looks like you’re posting from the University, I see. What’s this about, hmm? Are you under Merck’s bankroll and just come on here to discredit any theory put forth by members who are knowledgeable enough cuz they may be closer to “the truth”, or what? Or are you just some University gym rat that likes to stir up shit online?
Explain your ties to Mayo to me, otherwise kiss your ass goodbye. BTW, here’s the log:
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I go to school at Mayo. I won’t bother you any more with my posts. I have no idea who those other people are except Lou from Meso who told me about this place.
Good luck in your recovery, I truely hope someone finds out the problem
You know (and this will be my last post on this, I hate to kick a guy when he’s down but you brought it upon yourself, man), I setup this site out of the goodness of my heart since the Yahoo forum was so disorganized with posts and it was hard to correlate information, blood tests, studies etc. and the members of the old group WANTED a better forum. So I took it upon myself to do this for everyone else. I paid for the domain. I researched the free forum hosts. I setup and configured the forum. I purchased the forum backup access. Others have since donated funds, and put their time into making this place what it is.
And yet, here I am greeted with people like you Jim, who come out of nowhere and have got nothing better to do than piss on all the hard work we’ve put in here, all the shit we’ve been personally going through. You just come on here and clutter things up with your argumentative spamming that really serves no purpose, while at the same time not contributing ANYTHING WHATSOEVER that might help the rest of us try and figure out WHAT THE HELL FINASTERIDE DID TO US AND HOW TO GET BETTER.
Do you actually, honestly believe I have time to waste policing your posts, mediating between you and other members of this forum, and can continue to let you run rampant and slander people? Do you think this is some kind of fucking joke? Guess what buddy, the joke may be on you in the end because if you ever quit Finasteride, there’s a chance (however slight) you may end up just like us. Ever thought of that, Jim? Don’t worry – none of us did when we took it, either.
I’ve been patient with you over the past few months on this, so don’t even try to accuse me of not being so. Plenty of warnings given as to the manner in which you post, your argumentative tact mostly directed at a particular member on this board who unlike you HAS gone out of his way to at least explain the reasoning behind his posts. You on the other hand offer no such explanations, we’re all just supposed to trust that you “know your stuff” and have been “designing cycles for pro bodybuilders for the past 20 years”.
Oh yea, says who? YOU? Who the hell are YOU to make such claims? Where’s your proof? Where’s the testimonials, the awards, designations, your name in the media? Where’s the studies to back up your claims? Your lack of contribution knowledgewise, as I gave you the chance today in this post, exposes you for what you really are - a fraud.
And once again when someone calls YOU out – in this case, ME – you run away, this time for a 2nd time. This time I hope you never come back, I really do. And no, I haven’t bothered to ban your fraudulant ass, as you taunted me to – that would be too easy.
One last thing. I don’t care if Hypo is “wrong” as you put it, I’ll read what he has to say and make my own judgements and better yet, present such info to an endo when it comes time to try such treatments and get the expert opinion. Hypo has stated many times that he is only offering a layman’s opinion ANYWAY — so people need to realize that for what its worth – ONE GUY’S OPINION.
Where are yours when people ask you for advice? Oh that’s right, you don’t have any (well actually you do - simply “try PCT and if it doesn’t work, too bad, you’re out of ideas”) and run away when you realize the jig is up. Gee Jim, that’s mighty helpful of you, something I could have found in 5 minutes on Google – thanks for sharing that golden nugget with us all, I’m sure it will come in handy. And thanks for espousing the reasoning behind such logic since, you know, taking drugs that affect the endocrine system have such very low risks and are as simple as popping candy, and should be done without medical supervision. Can you taste my sarcasm yet, Jim?
You know, I’m not one to get pissed off easily but I’ve had enough of your crap. I won’t let this site get ruined by your pissy, childish bullying tactics. You’re at Mayo? Oh really? Judging by the way you type, the way you present your arguments, the lack of information in your posts, and lack of willingness to back up your claims with studies certainly shows a level of cognition that appears to be far below that of a University-educated person… I should know, because I am one.
Good luck with your career and when you decide to grow up and debate things in a professional manner, by all means feel free to share your thoughts. But until then, don’t even bother showing your face around here.
To be hornest, Im not sure his advise was so bad, afterall I have thought about it myself. To rule out someting can also be a help. Im currently on TRT and if that does not help within 6 months, I will consider to do a short cycle with 500mg a week as Jim suggested.
However, I too would like to know what he is here for. Is it to help us, or is it to provoke hypo. Jim what excacly is your interrest in this forum?
JH
WOW you almost sounded human then. Why cant you post like that all the time?
I appreciate your input Jim, but I get tired of listening to self professed internet gurus. Next time you post here, you might want to leave your ego at the door and pick it up on the way out.
Well said Mew, he has had this coming for a while. Zeros like him just make the rest of us look bad.
As if we dont have enough to worry about 