Transgender PFS victim looking for similar cases (Female-to-Male)

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Where are you from (country)?

USA

How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)

Google

What is your current age, height, weight?

21 yrs old, 5’7, 140 pounds

What specific drug did you use (finasteride, dutasteride, saw palmetto, isotretinoin/Accutane, fluoxetine, sertraline, citalopram, leuprorelin, etc…)?

Finasteride

What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?

1 mg daily oral

What condition was being treated with the drug?

Male Pattern Baldness

For how long did you take the drug (weeks/months/years)?

4 months exactly

Date when you started the drug?

Oct 14, 2024

Date when you quit the drug?

Feb 14, 2025

Age when you quit?

21 yrs old

How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?

Cold turkey

How long into your usage did you notice the onset of side effects?

Approximately 2 months

What side effects did you experience that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?

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Sexual
[X] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[ ] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[ ] Loss of Morning Erections
[ ] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ ] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ ] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[X] Inability or Difficulty to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[X] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[X] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[X] Confusion
[ ] Memory Loss / Forgetfulness
[X] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[X] Slurring of Speech
[X] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[ ] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[X] Severe Depression / Melancholy
[X] Suicidal Thoughts

Physical
[ ] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[X] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[X] Muscle Wastage
[X] Muscle Weakness
[X] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[X] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[X] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[X] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[X] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[X] Tinnitus (ringing or high pitched sound in ears)
[ ] Hearing loss
[X] Increased hair loss
[X] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[X] Other (please explain)

Psychological/Cognitive Symptoms:

-apathy and anhedonia,
-difficulty understanding instructions,

Neurological/Physical Symptoms:

-Light Sensitivity,
-Muscle twitching across body,
-Visual snow, seeing imprints of lights, double vision, floaters, seeing random lines and colors, seeing objects move/vibrate, inability to focus eye, blurry vision.,
-Very dry eyes and mouth; chapped lips,
-Extreme weakness and exhaustion,
-squishy jelly muscles/no pump,
-soft wrinkly skin on forehead,
-beard and body hair falling out,
-skin on hands getting red and scaly in the sun,
-yellow pale undigested stools,

Sexual Symptoms:

-loss of color in genitals,
-lack of circulation resulting in cold unresponsive genitals,
-soft mushy genitals,
-anorgasmia

What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?

I am on Testosterone Therapy by default as a transgender man, which I suppose counts. Other than that, all my lifestyle changes have been holistic. I have prioritized optimizing my health in every possible way, including diet, exercise, socialization, and spirituality.

If you have pre or post-drug blood tests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (please post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?

Elevated Hematocrit and low MCHC.
Low Vitamin D.
Never an issue prior to PFS crash.

Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience?

My original symptom list post-crash was much worse than this, and about twice as long. Thankfully I’ve seen positive changes with time across most symptoms, although some appear to be getting worse and some are new.

Tell us your story, in your own words, about your usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.

I wanted to introduce myself and share my story, my on-drug side effects, and my symptoms leading up to my crash.

First some context. I wanna be open and honest about my health and lifestyle. I am 21 years old, 5’7, 140 ish pounds. I’m a transgender man, meaning I was born female; I began medically transitioning at age 17 when I started taking testosterone (injectable). In case anyone is curious, a female body on testosterone therapy will effectively be considered “male” on a hormonal level after 6 months of testosterone therapy. I am way past that threshold, so my body is masculine; I have a beard, thick body hair, masculine shape, I had a double mastectomy to remove my breasts, and am essentially male in all aspects except having a penis (though even then after so many years of Testo my genitals behave in a more “male” than female way). I also had very consistently normal testosterone levels for a biological man across my blood work for years. This means my body metabolizes things in a “male” way and therefore made me a candidate for finasteride; a hair loss medication more commonly used by biological men frequently taken by trans people as well. I have personally met and spoken to other trans men (and trans women) that have recommended me finasteride for my male pattern balding issue as they’ve been on it for years and experienced no adverse side effects.

So, after doing minoxidil topical treatments for a year, using hair oil religiously before washing my hair (with rosemary oil and other ingredients) and losing more hair, I got finasteride (1 mg daily - oral) prescribed by my primary care physician for my hair loss. I asked my doctor if there were any side effects and she told me that they were “so uncommon they’re not worth worrying about”. I also did a small amount of research on the subject, learning about “reversible” side effects, and told myself that if I ever had any sexual issues I would quit the drug. It seemed safe. After all, I trusted my doctor, and I knew people personally who were on finasteride without an issue, or had all of their side effects go away after quitting the drug.

So I was on finasteride for about 4 months (Oct 14, 2024 - Feb 14, 2025) and took a total of approximately 120 pills throughout this duration.

I developed several sides while on finasteride that got worse and worse with time. I did not notice, nor did I attribute these changes to finasteride, because none of them were related to my sexual function. My libido was sky-high, I was having awesome sex with my then-partner several times a day, everything seemed to be fine in that front.

What I did get was this incessant, annoying twitch in my eyelid that would hurt like hell and intensify in times of stress. Weird; I never had that before. After I completed my finals it went away, mostly because I was less stressed. This was month 2 of finasteride.

My vision also got a bit worse. I found myself squinting a lot when typing or reading. My night vision also decreased. Thought I needed a new prescription. Also, I would get weirdly tired, bloated, and sore post-orgasm; a strange and painful feeling that would only get worse and worse with time. I didn’t connect the dots yet. This was month 3 of finasteride.

Month 4 was when things went to shit. I was tired, I was in so much pain and discomfort I spent most of my time laying in bed, I was having daily diarrhea whereas usually my bowels were healthy, I was in an uncharacteristically shitty mood, and most alarmingly, I started having urinary issues. Pissing became painful and difficult; I started to piss out bits of pus. I thought I had a urinary tract infection and ended up going to the ER. They gave me an antibiotic I took for a week. Symptoms lessened while I was on the antibiotic, then they came back and got WORSE. I was terrified of this persistent “urinary tract infection” that wasn’t going away, especially because of the growing amount of white blood cells in my urine tests, and the fact that I was no longer just pissing out pus but also little bloody, fleshy chunks.

So I went back to the ER, fucking terrified, and was prescribed ANOTHER antibiotic to take for a week, and this time I got serious about it working so I cut out EVERYTHING to let it do its job. I stopped drinking coffee, I stopped having any sugar, and I also temporarily suspended all of my supplements and medications (which included finasteride).

Finally, my urinary symptoms went away and I could piss normally. I felt relief, and was ready to resume my medications after about a week.

Started taking finasteride again, and whaddya know. Day 2 of resuming, urinary symptoms came back. That’s when I finally realized that the finasteride was in fact causing me these damn urinary issues. Needless to say I stopped taking that shit immediately and threw it away. Symptoms went away instantly. I thought I was in the clear. I was wrong.

At that point, it was March 25, 2025, about a month and a half passed after I quit finasteride; a month of patting myself on the back and feeling good about dodging a bullet and making the right call, and suddenly, I wake up and see blood. On my torso. Dripping in a thick continuous line from my right nipple. My nipple bled in my sleep, and a tiny fleshy hole appeared where the blood stream came out of.

Needless to say, this was deeply unsettling. I tried to brush it off, but over the next days, more changes kept happening. I noticed a change in my vision; weird, staticky, flickering; annoying, like looking at an old TV. I got floaters. I started seeing imprints of light sources and lamps when I’d move my head. It wouldn’t go away. It only got worse. I couldn’t unsee it.

On March 26th, 2025, I went to the ER again, had my eyes looked at; doctor found no abnormalities. Said my eyes were fine. A day later I started developing a vicious headache.

First I felt it in my sinuses, then it moved to the back of my eyes and intensified day by day, until it became an intense, never ending pain in my skull, like a tight rubber band pressing down on my temples, sinuses, eyes, forehead, and upper neck.

Then my heartbeat started beating really hard, even when I would do basic things like change position or stand up. I would feel tired and winded; I’d need to sit down and breathe, and I’d feel my heart pounding so intensely that I’d see my hairs move from where my pulse was throbbing in my temples.

And finally, the anxiety started; a terrible, impending feeling of doom that I wanted to physically run away from. I could not escape it. It was a primal and animalistic fear that would follow me around no matter what. I didn’t know why it appeared. I didn’t know how to get rid of it.

Suddenly I had a thought. I got to googling “can finasteride cause vision problems?” The answer was yes. Second search “can finasteride side effects appear a month after stopping the medication?” The answer, as you all painfully know, was yes.

That was how I learned about PFS. I found out about the PFS network and this community (as well as the PFS subreddit which is where I made this post first, by the way) and I read all of your stories, which were terrifying and devastating. The stress of this discovery pushed me over the edge, and finally, on March 30-31st, 2025, I crashed.

All of my symptoms immediately multiplied in intensity, and I developed a quadrillion more symptoms. I got completely fucking destroyed; absolutely butchered by this so called “medication”. I was struck with severe psychological, physical, and sexual symptoms across the board. (That I will absolutely go into great detail in my future posts, but in a more organized way for the sake of clarity and order; long story short it is was the worst thing I’ve ever experienced in my life and I was completely and utterly incapacitated to the point of being crippled).

My mom had to drive my hysterical ass to the ER and I had to be given Benzos just so I could calm the fuck down because I could not stop hyperventilating. I was holding back screams of fear for a week. I had to drop out of the term and take a step back from university and kiss my employment search goodbye. I became terrified of the dark as well as my own room to the point where I slept in my mom’s bed at 21 fucking years old. I was too scared to go the bathroom by myself and keep the door closed. All of my dreams, hobbies, and comforts became inaccessible to me. I couldn’t even look at my damn phone or listen to a YouTube video; I genuinely thought I was going to die in my sleep or be bedbound for the rest of my life. I thought I was going to be like this forever; I decided my only option was to kill myself, to throw myself out the window and plummet onto the pavement below. I didn’t, though; partially because I physically could not get up from the couch as I didn’t have the strength to hold a damn spoon- forget walking across the room. Partially because I didn’t want to do this to my mom. I honestly don’t know how I survived any of this. The indomitable human spirit, I guess.

Since then, most symptoms have gotten much better. Some have gotten worse. Some are completely new. So far, the general trend appears to be positive, and I’m going to attribute it to luck, time, and the extreme and immediate lifestyle changes I undertook whilst crashing to make sure I don’t make myself worse. I currently live like a monk; I’m completely sober, I’m on a very strict diet that completely excludes all processed foods and all added sugar. I drink exclusively water. I threw away all my shampoos and skincare and bought a soap bar I can trust to wash my entire body with. It’s not fun to live like this, but I’ll do what I have to do to give my body the tools it needs to start healing itself and maximize my chances of recovery.

I don’t know what the future is going to look like for me. I don’t know if I’ll recover. What I do know is that I’m going to do my best to catalogue my experience in detail and contribute to the body of knowledge that is this forum. From now on, I’m posting everything about my experiences in case someone finds this information useful. I know for a fact I am not the only trans person affected by PFS, even though I originally feared I was a unique case. Though being openly trans on this forum is scary to me seeing as I am highly secretive about it in my real life, I think that adding my experience is important.

Let’s all do our best to uplift each other. We all may have had vastly different lives up to this point but this forum is a point of contact with people that empathize with us and can comprehend the physical and emotional pain that this debilitating syndrome causes. I look forward to getting to know all of you as we work on rebuilding our lives and recovering together. If anyone has any questions about my medical history and biology, being trans, or finasteride use in the trans community please feel free to ask.

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Thank you for such a great post and your determination and strength is evident from your writing

I can relate to many of the symptoms described , no one should go through this but most of us here have, remember you are not alone and we are so much stronger than we think

Interesting about your antibiotic journey, I had doxycycline post crash which I’m pretty sure screwed me further recently I had to take erythromycin as I was in a bad way from a bacterial infection and thankfully it’s worked out fine. I dont think I would ever take doxycycline or that class of antibiotics again

Just a quick tip, there is a reddit group called post finasteride syndrome that is run by the same moderators as here (PFS Network) and the traffic on there is far higher than here

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https://www.reddit.com/r/FinasterideSyndrome/about/

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I’m sorry you’re suffering with similar symptoms to mine; the visual issues are incredibly frustrating. I’ve personally experienced great relief with them when prioritizing sunlight exposure (1 hr a day at least) but that’s been hard to do consistently since it’s so damn rainy where I live.

I am very active on that Reddit group but I appreciate you letting me know :slight_smile: I decided to make a copy of my post on there to track my symptoms and keep everything organized but I don’t plan on using this account frequently except for posting updates and doing research.

I’l add the -cycline antibiotics into the group of drugs I must avoid.

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Hello from the other side, mtf here. The interesting thing with your case is you had almost my exact presentation in many respects but I also got a lot of waves of burning neuropathy through my whole body/brain after the initial crash event after “the downfall” over the course of some days which was just like yours. I also had the dry mouth and eyes with chapped lips (I still have the lip skin issue actually, it’s really embarrassing). The yellow clay stools (it was almost tan, very disturbing) and twitching. I had the cloudy urine and frequent urination but I didn’t get blood in mine though but I think this is a vascular related condition since the only thing that initiated me feeling almost normal entirely again in windows has been serrapeptase followed by other protein but not fibrin degraders (currently I have papain and caricain on this stack but I’m still trialing this and other enzymes I have on the way so I haven’t updated my own topic yet). My journey also involved an entire saga with D3 which I still can’t make much sense of besides that it was almost random in what it did to me but I had to integrate and only ended up doing so upon rebounding off of calcifediol and getting on a stable dose of vegan D3 2500 IU every day.

Yours if I read right seemed to progress into the urine problems from the gut problems and tired all the time. This is where mine began initiating “the fall”. Which also like you involved my vision going to shit with lots of weird flickers and floater/flashers (this was worst on the day before the big brain zap crash and came with the worst anxiety I ever felt in my life, I don’t even know how to describe the state of derealized terror I was in). After that the even worse fatigue set in and I was officially in the severe territory of CFS, I was only able to sometimes get off a chair and hobble around like a elderly person. I also had the extreme speech problems and slurring. For some time after that crash I’d experience waves of burning agony throughout my entire body all day which eventually turned into just daily waves of my brain feeling like someone set it on fire with all the pressure headaches and shifts you describe. I still have that one a bit with the pressure but the only thing that helps is the enzymes, in fact it was the first thing serrapeptase hit. I also still get horrific anxiety in waves sometimes amplified by pressurized stressful situations which turns into that “animalistic doom” feeling though now it feels more transparent because it’s so chemical in nature and passes much quicker. I also know of that distinct “everything is wrong” feeling during those episodes. Everything somehow becomes absolutely terrifying in a subtle nightmarish way as if everything isn’t real and the only thing real is despair and doom? It’s really difficult to describe but you can’t enjoy anything in it because everything becomes tainted/colored with “the doom”.

Also interesting how antibiotics modulated things in a positive direction though unfortunately before rebounding in a worse way. I was diagnosed with lyme at the time when I decided to try the herbals as they wouldn’t prescribe me any of the antibiotic meds. I first started getting the most profound modulations with cistus incanus and got my sensation back and emotions with osha root from one dose. The rest was a long journey of throwing everything at it and gets wildly complex but on a related note I had a close crash call with turmeric and glucose like compounds such as glucosamine and glucaronolactone. Psyllium husk also threatened to end me before which I was surprised by because I had such a tiny amount and it’s technically just a special kind of fiber, it literally has almost nothing to it compound wise! All these near misses over the course of moving up had one thing in common, as soon as it hits those guts shit hits the fan. This led me to think much later now with enzymes on my current stack improving things that is a gut immune loop centered condition that’s mediated by the out of control production of something protein based in the guts that also causes vascular damage specifically brought on by certain mechanisms in vulnerable individuals through a certain set of compounds that can do it (probably due to some genetic mutation in something that allows this to happen). Some people like us get absolutely wrecked, others just get some brain fog with sexual dysfunction. Again just a theory but based on all my personal experience and everything I have tried this appears to make sense.

My big question though is still a vague “what really is this?” Do certain immune fluctuations from the guts cause a certain set of microbes to induce a feedback loop that damages everything in this specific way and leads to backup of something in the body that happens long after the offending compound has left? Not everyone gets the gut problems though which makes this even more confusing. Very many users state that when it began though they had frequent urination, there’s actually a pretty big topic on it here. Muscle and skin wastage is also another big group. Maybe though the guts are involved symptoms can just present all over the place without noticing much in the guts in many cases up front symptom wise? In almost all cases something clearly gets screwed up in the ANS though which I think is a central component of the sexual dysfunction and non-reactivity to sexual stimuli at all as well as anhedonia/no drive. All of the automatic functions neurologically seem to just be put on hold, as if something went out and needs to be sparked again. This is actually a phenomenon I noticed in my case.

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The vascular bit also tracks with the long hauler community. If you look at their stories and replace covid with propecia they are almost identical. Would you mind sharing the the specific brand of enzymes you take that led to your progress? I’d like to consider them. Thanks so much. I’ve also had this for 7+ years now, and the VSS symptoms (flashes, floater, etc.) plagued me hard. While some still persist and I still have this persistent feeling of not being fully connected like I used to be, a lot of the visual and head pressure symptoms improved. The “inflamed” feeling eventually got better (or my brain learned out to tune it out)

Wow, thank you for the incredibly detailed and thorough response; it does seem like our symptom profile is unsettlingly similar when it comes to psychological issues, neurological issues, and gut problems. I spoke to multiple trans men and women over the course of the last 3 months and their cases tend to be much milder than mine initially was after crash.

I won’t even pretend to know as much about supplementation to help metabolic processes involved in this condition as you clearly have much more experience than me in that regard. What I will say is that I fully agree with your take on the automatic functions being put ‘on hold’; I feel like frequently its a case of a single link misfiring somewhere in the body, at least for me. In the moments that link unfucks itself, many bodily functions seem to come back online immediately. For example, when it came to my psychological improvements (which I’m incredibly grateful for) I remember being literally in the middle of my daily PFS induced hysterical panic attack, forcing myself to box breathe, when suddenly it just stopped. The anxiety vanished within a fraction of a second, and not gradually; literally from 100 to 0 in the blink of an eye. It was almost like I felt some wire in my brain get uncrossed. It was utterly bizarre, but I’m not complaining.

On a different note, because no single medication currently exists that can treat this shit, I’ve resorted to the very scientific and precise method of ‘throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks’ (within reason). My arsenal of treatments thus far is medicinal, traditional, and holistic.

Of course, being trans, it’s impossible to expect to get help from one of the PFS network doctors as their knowledge understandably does not include us. That’s one of the reasons I thought I was double-fucked during my crash and nearly offed myself. Fortunately, after several days of going down the reddit rabbithole, I discovered Doctor William Powers (Powers Family Medicine), who specializes in transgender health and also happens to have treated over a hundred PFS patients. Despite him being in another state, I was able to become his patient. Because I was fortunate enough to start seeing improvements after crash, during our first appointment, I stressed the fact that I want to delay more aggressive treatments unless I find myself plateauing or regressing. As a result of that, the only treatment we did thus far was put me back on testosterone (injectable) and adjust my dose to make it more consistent.

I did not notice any obvious improvement or worsening from hopping back on Testo thus far; I was fearful of it but it wasn’t really a choice seen as my free testo at that point was 109; way below range for any healthy male including a trans male.

The improvements I did make came from lifestyle changes way before hopping back on Testo post-crash; diet, exercise, sunlight exposure, lowering stress, and being particular about ‘safe’ hygiene products all did wonders for my progress. Especially the sunlight exposure; it’s helped me tremendously with my visual symptoms, even though I have no idea why or how it helped. I can go into more detail about all of this if you’d like.

Interesting that you got the visual problems like flickers and floaters as well. I feel like that tends to be uncommon. PFS decided to give me Visual Snow Syndrome, it appears. From what I read, sometimes VSS comes with complementary migraines, pressure headaches, sound sensitivity, and light sensitivity (well isn’t that just fantastic) all of which I got, but thankfully they improved with time. Personally, I’ve been looking into VSS outside of the context of PFS to get some more research in for myself; for some people it seems to be induced by immense psychological stress that comes from a bad drug trip, or one of the medicines of the infamous unholy trinity (Propecia, Accutane, Antidepressants), but for others it appears to be a very low vitamin level of some kind. Even weirder; for some, it appears to be an overly tense muscle somewhere in the back or neck that seems to ‘clip’ one of the nerves responsible for vision. This is not surprising considering how many people (including me) get a hypertonic pelvic floor from PFS (if you catch my drift, I think in my case the pelvic floor isn’t the only set of muscles that got all fucked up and clenched up). I’m currently coming back from a vicious cold but once I feel better I’m planning to start yoga, and I want to very deliberately and carefully loosen the muscles in my back and neck, and maybe I’ll find some relief with my VSS symptoms.

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Thank you! I just kind of threw everything at the wall while driving myself insane from endless research and trials. Not much else to do when your life is largely on hold until you fix the problem. Like you said there its as if there is a single link misfiring, I’ve also experienced the 100 to 0 reductions in the anxiety before but I’m never able to pinpoint entirely what causes everything to just start functioning again. Granted I do actually have a lot of anxiety because I’m not in a great situation otherwise never mind the PFS boat while needing to work full time which is a disastrous combination but this kind of anxiety is some kind of chemical anxiety (though it will amplify from actual anxiety). Based on what I’m feeling now going deeper with the enzymes I’m currently experimenting with it appears to be a broken neuro-inflammation feedback loop that is involving the guts.

And yeah if it did none of us would be here right now because we’d know the exact mechanisms of what goes wrong and what symptom fall out can specifically occur with medicine that targets just that. The big problem though is with the fall out, you have the initial trigger but then the trickle down symptoms that get out of control on their own. No one knows where the trigger mechanism and immediate presentation begins and where the fall out begins to snow ball itself becoming conditions in themselves in the post-drug bubble.

Yeah there is not many of us down here and because of that I expect to be put to the side since we probably have much different genetic make up’s at a baseline and may respond to things much differently than for example something that may work well for a large chunk of the group (but even without trans people it’s a gamble, there will always be presentation/response outliers). I won’t get into more because I don’t want to turn this into a discussion on the current social and political climate regarding transgender people but it’s quite a mess. Like for example me and turmeric. Most people here are fine with it but if I even look at it my brain and body collapses in on itself. Balancing a life with this was really difficult but in a nutshell I won’t deny that getting things more in balance and minimizing baseline stress definitely helped things along. I have been working the entire time, I surrounded by many transphobic people and I’m always in some state of unrest, and in general the world is not friendly to the chronically ill. That lack of understanding and support along with a world moving at breakneck speed that stops for no one is a recipe for daily terror. I have never crashed from stress alone but if I’m in a flare than it will make everything much worse. I think there are some people that have though after a period of prolonged intense stressors.

I’ve been prone to and still am to migraines my entire life and yeah you don’t see the VSS symptoms in too many cases with this. I have little bit of it now but it’s not nearly as bad as it used to be. I don’t have the sound sensitivity though, only light sensitivity occasionally but I can’t pin down anything that specifically flares that one. These are very general symptoms that you find in a lot of conditions so they can probably have many causes. You do usually see this pop up in the post drug, bad psychedelic trip bubble. I have some annoying neck tension often myself but only in one area around the base of my neck, I don’t know what causes it and still haven’t gotten to the bottom of it but you generally see that tension in that area pop up in ME/CFS communities.

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