Took Fin for 6m in 2004, my situation 20y after

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Where are you from (country)? United States

How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?) Google search

What is your current age, height, weight? 44yo, 5’6", 99Lbs

What specific drug did you use (finasteride, dutasteride, saw palmetto, isotretinoin/Accutane, fluoxetine, sertraline, citalopram, leuprorelin, etc…)? Finasteride 1mg

What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)? 1mg/day for 4m or so, then half dose for remaining 2m or so

What condition was being treated with the drug? hair loss

For how long did you take the drug (weeks/months/years)? 6 months

Date when you started the drug? Jan 2004

Date when you quit the drug? June 2004

Age when you quit? 24yo

How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)? cold turkey

How long into your usage did you notice the onset of side effects? Probably 3 months

What side effects did you experience that have yet to resolve since discontinuation? Wide range of typical PFS symptoms, from sexual to cognitive to physical to digestive, see boxes checked below

Check the boxes that apply. You can save your post first, then interactively check/uncheck the boxes by clicking on them. If your symptoms change, please update your list.

Sexual
[x] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[x] Erectile Dysfunction
[x] Complete Impotence
[ ] Loss of Morning Erections
[x] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ ] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[x] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability or Difficulty to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[x] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[x] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[x] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[x] Memory Loss / Forgetfulness
[x] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[x] Slurring of Speech
[x] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[ ] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[x] Severe Depression / Melancholy
[ ] Suicidal Thoughts

Physical
[x] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[x] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[x] Muscle Wastage
[x] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[x] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[x] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Tinnitus (ringing or high pitched sound in ears)
[ ] Hearing loss
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[x] Lowered body temperature

[x] Other (please explain)
Anxiety can pop up at random times of the day (but not extreme as in above box)

What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
Various supplements/herbs. Tomorrow I will be starting Clomid and Armour Thyroid -i.e. hard medicines- for the first time, which is one reason I wanted to start posting here.

If you have pre or post-drug blood tests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (please post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?
I have some recent blood tests; will consider posting some after starting the treatment mentioned above.

Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience?

Tell us your story, in your own words, about your usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.
Dear everyone, I took Finasteride 1mg for 6 months when I was still 24 with a bright outlook into both personal life and professional career, other than not having a ton of self-assurance and being anxious about a receding hair line - the reason why I took the drug. Now 44, 3 divorces behind me, no romantic life for the past 6 years, and struggling with social and communication aspects; alongside having to deal with most of the PFS health impacts reported by others. However I do feel lucky to be alive now, which is kind of a miracle considering several opportunities I had to “move on” along the way. With time and reflection, I don’t feel overly depressed anymore nor wanting to die, and I focus every ounce of energy and motivation I can find into achieving the things I love or aspire to while keeping a healthy lifestyle. After much consideration and the advice from two doctors knowledgeable about PFS, tomorrow I will be starting a treatment with Clomid (12.5mg/d) and Armour Thyroid (30mg/d). None of the supplements/herbs/lifestyle changes taken on my own so far produced a breakthrough improvement - hence the calculated risk of stepping into hard medicine. Will keep you all posted!

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Sorry to read your story.
Could you share your total T, free T , FSH, LH and vitamin D level?
Do you have joint pain, spine pain etc?
I am sure you have read the posts about clomid treatment by other members. I don’t say you take or do not take clomid but after reading posts, you will have better idea during and after Clomid treatment.

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Thanks for reading my new member story and your words of encouragement! Joint pain is not something I’ve experienced to date. Vitamin D and B12 levels have been alright after I started taking those vitamins as supplements several years ago. Below are my testosterone, thyroid, and cortisol-related blood results just before starting Clomid 12.5 mg/d + Armour Thyroid 30 mg/d. I will post new results after some time into the treatment. No adverse side effects so far after the first week.
Testosterone, Total: 1428 ng/dL
Bioavailable Testosterone: 111 nd/dL
Estradiol, Sensitive: 17.1 pg/mL
FSH: 5.8 mIU/ml
LH: 4.4 mIU/ml
T4, Free: 0.92 ng/dL
T3, Free: 2.5 pg/mL
Reverse T3: 15.6 ng/dL
Cortisol: 16.7 μg/dL
ACTH: 13 pg/mL
DHEA Sulfate: 157 μg/dL

Thanks for posting your blood report.
I wonder why you are taking clomid because your value look perfectly fine?
you put these values before starting clomid treatment. Your total T, FSH, LH are perfectly good. The total T is on higher side of the range 300 and 1,000 ng/dL. What clomid will change?

According to the doctor (a long-time PFS expert), both my blood results and self-described symptoms point to severe hypogonadism and hypothyroidism. One thing to note is that the Total Testosterone metric in itself is almost irrelevant; Bioavailable Testosterone (which includes free T and albumin-bound T) is the one that can be used by the body and for that metric I was in the lowest 6%-ile for men in my age range… As a quick and informal update two weeks into the treatment, I start feeling better overall, with higher body energy and mind focus. Not quite my pre-PFS state but any modest improvement is a victory! Will keep you all posted with the next round of blood tests.