Thoughts on the mechanism of Post-Drug Syndrome

I support your approach. We are all scared of drugs, I know, anyway, many of us are too much occupied with theories and possibly negative side effects while trying to fix this. I guess for every possible solution we can find an antiargument. Use vitamin C and dont use vitamin C beacuse, use Zinc and dont use it… Yeah, we can get worse but we cant get better without trying and experimenting. We cant find a way out. Most of sucess stories (fake or not) are from people trying things (even very rhisky). That’s why Im currently doing FMT. After 3 months of FMT ill experiment with reinstating low dose ssri. I know I can do more damage but Im absolutely not satisfied with what I have.
So, good luck man and I hope well find the way out.

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Hi @Papasmurf, did you start with your trial of Finasteride / episteride yet? I am really curious.

Not yet I’m currently exploring with other 5ar inhibitors to see how I feel and to put my theory to test.

Currently taking
zinc
green tea
soy
This is obviously a novel approach but hopefully it’ll give me a better insight to the mechanisms at play here sometimes we have to be our own guinea pigs especially seeing that men haven’t recovered in 10 or 20 years that’s like jail time in solitary confinement, fuck that!

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In what form are you taking soy? @Papasmurf

Straight from the bottle soy sauce mixed with green tea can’t really taste it also using some curcumin.

Are you sure soy sauce contains a decent amount of flavonoids? I think it’s the flavonoids that have the antiandrogenic effect.

This would be a good question for @skorpio88. @Papasmurf I did have good benefit from soy but I took soy flour. Only negative was it gave me pretty bad shits on the day I took a lot. Penile sensitivity felt a little improved and I’ve been having a little better energy as of late

I’m really not sure it was just lying up the cupboard so thought why not

When did you start taking?

Like a month ago for about a week and a half.
One tablespoon a day but did two on the day I got the shits

So you’ve seen improvements then

I support your answer. You have a point here

Hey @fixit, could you fill out the survey please.

Hello Greek. Page 14.

Theory: selective androgen receptor degraders (SARDs) could cure PFS. Currently there is only one, dimethylcurcumin, and it’s still in phase 2 clinical trials. I’ve thought about trying curcumin however I believe the AR degrading effect is much less reliable than the one induced by dimethylcurcumin.

Very interesting indeed.

How is selective degradation different from receptor antagonism?

A degrader binds to a receptor and degrades it significantly faster than it would have degraded without being exposed to the degrader.

Is castration resistant prostate cancer (CRPC) the opposite of PFS? This type of cancer means that androgenic genes continue to be expressed even in the absence of androgens if I’ve understood the condition correctly. But in CRPC the androgen receptor is often overexpressed, and this leads to the question of how AR is able to function in CRPC?

Hi, sorry I do not get it.

Could you please explain ?
What is the point to target the receptor ? Is not the issue is repression of receptor’s gene (by methylation of promoter) ?

Thank you.