This could be the best supplement combination yet!

Therapeutic Efforts Supplements & Lifestyle
#1

After much thought, reading, and research, I may have just come up with a knockout combination to rid myself of this curse! Much of my reading and research has been done on this forum, google, wikipedia, pubmed, and anabolicminds.com. People on this forum pretty much either have hypogonadism, or adrenal fatigue. The receptors getting damaged theory seems kinda dodgy to me, but I’m sure even that’s curable. It is my belief that this combination of supplements may help speed up recovery and save you months, maybe even years of time in recovery.

Paravol - Contains many things mentioned on here such as DIM, Chrysin, and Tribulus extract. Originally developed to help men regain endogenous testosterone production post-AAS use.

Reset AD - This is an adrenal fatigue formula that contains such things as bovine adrenal gland, and pregnenolone. I think it could definitley speed up the process, there are also supplements at adrenalfatigue.com but I’m not so sure about them, they seem kinda similar to Dr. Lin’s supplements.

omega 3 fatty acid supplement of your choice - This helps with cholestrol in the blood, and the good HDL cholestrol is what hormones are made of, I’m pretty sure this helps in raising levels of HDL while at the same time reducing the bad kind of cholestrol in your blood.

Gabob - This stuff is dubbed “the closet legal molecule to GHB” Helps with cortisol and prolactin levels, helps release more growth hormone, and also just makes you feel relaxed.

Tanalbit - Just to keep candida under control, you might want to combine it with pro-biotics or some of the other suggested stuff…

Lifestyle changes - Absolutely no stimulant use! Quit smoking cigarettes, quite caffeine, stay the hell away from cocaine, amphetamine, ecstasy, and the like. Don’t drink alcohol, I would also suggest not using cannabis as it does kill fertility. So basically nothing mind-altering is a good way to go. Live life on a good schedule and get adequate sleep and rest, reduce stress as much as possible. I’ve found that working out in the morning as suggested by Mr. GHB himself paul waters is in fact a good way to go about things. A good breakfast in the morning with eggs and orange juice can’t hurt. So basically just live life positively, and it shouldn’t take too long at all to get back to optimal reproductive condition, hell you might even end up being healthier than you were before the use of propecia, you may not even lose so much hair anymore after taking care of an adrenal fatigue problem. Just live a positive life with a positive mind, and you just might be able to cure yourself in a period of time as short as 2 or 3 month (keep in mind this is no easy task and it still takes a while).

Good luck and best wishes to all of you!

#2

http://men.webmd.com/news/20031013/smoking-marijuana-lowers-fertility

Good article on the effects of marijuana and fertility, it’s not just a myth, and it would definitely not be in the best interest of anyone on this forum to take anything mind-altering, I know that the temptation might be even higher than normal just because of your shitty situation, but you really have to cleanse and heal your body.

#3

Good one man. I like the post. How is your recovery going now? And how is the Gabob??

Why are you forgetting to mention the number one most obvious culprit in all of this?? THE PROSTATE!!! Its responsible for all of these side affects! Sure, all these other things may contribute, but the prostate is the center of it all, and also the main thing thats clinically proven to happen when Propecia is taken, to shrink the prostate. When obstructions occur in the prostate, infection can happen. Think of any chronic infection.

Good luck

#4

Hey Boston, it’s good to see you on here!

I definitley wouldn’t be surprised to find out there’s a prostate issue of some sort, if it’s an infection of some sort I guess it would be good to have lots of vitamin C and a good multi-vitamin, which is something I’ve been taking for a while.

Having BPH or prostatitis at the age of 20 seems really unlikely to me though, meds interfering or not. It’s unheard of and it just kinda seems weird to me. I just feel like it’s a neuroendocrine sort of thing. Adrenal fatigue usually takes months or even years to heal so I just feel that many people on here could be afflicted. I’m sure if you take good care of your adrenals you’ll have a better immune system anyhow so it would help even if your theory is right. But man in our situation you really can’t rule anything out. This is definitely one of those situations in life where it’s harder to get yourself out of than get yourself into, but the lessons learned could be very valuable for the rest of your life. I really feel you can’t rule out any possibility, whether it be adrenal fatigue, prostatitis, or even candida.

As for my recovery, I’m making some good progress, the other day I actually got a massive erection while dazing off on the thought of a past sexual experience, it was the first time I saw the full length of my cock in a while!

A few days later my bottle of aspire36 came in the mail and I just had to try it, it pretty much forced my body to have a massive erection, but it also gave me a massive 2 day splitting headache and feelings of exhaustion, it was so bad I couldn’t function. As silly as it may sound I think aspire took so much out of my body that I ended up with the flu. So I’m thinking that my body has just been weakened somehow and I need to work on rebuilding my whole existence. I feel as if adrenal fatigue and stress and malnutrition and whatnot may have been the reason for me to start losing my hair in the first place.

As for GABOB, I’m still waiting for it to come in the mail, I’ll be sure to let you and everyone else know how it is.

One thing I’ve been curious of and have been meaning to ask you is how your trip went. I’m sure that even if you haven’t fully recovered from ED you at least had a good time, I’d like to hear about it! I’ve been thinking of doing something like that myself, just to get away from everything really, I wouldn’t mind going somewhere nuts like Alaska.

#5

Here’s an update… and even more supplements that can help you out, let me tell you, and I’m not joking, but my libido is getting better and better every day, the stuff I list really works, and for me in a surprisingly short amount of time…

Random erections are back, and so are erections from visual stimulation, I’m pretty close to making a post in the recoveries thread, but before I do that I would like to bring libido to a highly enhanced state, to a point that it’s even better than before using propecia, not to mention there are still psychological hurdles to be overcome, having this happen to me hasn’t made me feel the best towards sex, or even females, not to mention bringing about a depression on me that I’m still trying to overcome, I am taking St John’s wort for this purpose. Also I would like to have one highly satisfying sex session before I make the statement that I have fully recovered…

I know one can be skeptical about products that claim to have sexual enhancement properties, since there’s plenty of stuff out there on infomercials and crap, but the people who sell that stuff just want your money for a weak product. Some of the stuff I list has more of a purpose than just to enhance your libido, they can also be used as an aid in post-cycle therapy for people who have used anabolic steroids or prohormones who have had their HPTA shut down, they can also be used to have an anabolic effect in themselves by increasing endogenous testosterone production, some of the growth hormone products can also be used for general anti-aging purposes. Also I read about and came across a lot of these products browsing the anabolic minds forum, which is owned and operated by Dr. Crisler, who also happens to be claimed on this forum as an expert in finasteride damage. I think if you workout some of these products could also give you the added benefit of a sexier body to go along with that increased libido of yours :wink: .

IGF-2 - This is supposed to enhance dopamine, growth hormone, and testosterone, click on the link and read the detailed description.

Powerfull - Another growth hormone increasing product, also claims to increase libido, I’m honestly not too sure whether you should combine this with the product mentioned above, you would probably not want to overkill cause too much growth hormone can make you look like a neanderthal. Look into the anabolic minds forum, there’s a good amount of experts and manufacturer representatives who know about this sort of thing.

RPM - I’ve read accounts of people stating that this does increase their libido, it’s sort of an energizer sort of thing that gives you aggression, it does effect your hormones, not too sure though I haven’t tried it.

Horny Mack Jack Stack This is actually three products in powdered form, horny goat weed, Maca root, and Longjack.

This is only a short list, there’s loads and loads of products that raise testosterone levels, growth hormone levels, and decrease prolactin and cortisol levels fairly effectively. Just look through the anabolic minds forum and nutraplanet.com, the stuff really works! Not only that but there’s probably a lot less side effects than using prescription meds like clomd, nolvadex, armidex, or aromasin. Not to mention going on TRT is not that great an option as it is a lifetime commitment, as well as having possible side effects in itself.

Just make good judgements and look at your own situation accordingly, so if you have your blood tests done that is a good starting point at what needs to be assessed.

I am personally having success, and I have a good feeling that my improvements will stay and my hormones will be normal like they were pre-finasteride if I discontinue the supplements. I am also seeing this as an opportunity to bring myself to a state of being strong of body and mind.

Remember that I am not a doctor and my advice doesn’t compensate for the advice of one. But then again a lot of you don’t seem to have much luck with that either.

Good luck!

#6

Oh yeah and for best results with paravol double the dosage, so take 2 in the morning and 2 at night, it may be a bit costly but for me it really doesn’t matter, and I could imagine it doesn’t for many of you either.

#7

so what happened?