Theoretical discussions related to IHP's story

and no this ISNT SOME BS …YOUR BODY GETS ALL NUTRIENTS FROM THE FOOD YOU EAT. SO IF YOUR DIGESTIVE SYSTEM ISNT WORKINF CORRECTLY, YOU WONT WORK CORRECTLY EITHER, YOU HAVE TO A DUMB ASS NOT TO KNOW THIS…! OR DO YOU THINK NUTRIENTS GET INTO THE SYSTEM BY YOU LUNGS?

ok mew…hope its out before we die of natural death.

and as that happens…i will work on my health, cant really understand whats the harm in that…so , good luck with that.

Brazilian dude, please stop posting post after post, you still have 30 minutes to edit them if you want to add to something you just wrote. And I understand your english isnt very strong so I’ll tell you clearly : my post was SARCASTIC and it should have been obvious if you spent a just little more time thinking before posting. I was making a point that just because candida or leaky gut can be used and abused by quacks to sell BS cures does not mean that they dont have any legitimacy to be considered as part of our issues. But we DO have to make reference to scientific literature when available and avoid at all cost to get our “information” from spam snake-oil selling websites , or present anedctodal reports from alternative medecine forums for anything else than they actually are.

VERY Interesting!!! Especially as a sufferer of chronic inflammatory “abacterial” (or more aptly “idiopathic”) prostatitis - autoimmunity is a possibility.

Mate, firstly, if you don’t believe that there’s a potential cure to PFS through diet then that’s your choice. But no need to launch into into yet another pointless argument. The REAL problem with the Theories section is when people decide to waste their time rubbishing theories and abusing people.

Secondly, read some of the links that people like Xhorndog have been posting. They’re informative, are written by nutritionists/neurologists etc that aren’t trying to flog some product, and they DO have scientific backing and are clearly showing the link between the gut and hormones, neurotransmitters, and the like.

Even if we don’t have candida or leaky gut, there’s evidence to suggest that strict dieting can resolve our issues over time. It happened for IHP. The creator of the GAPS diet (a brain surgeon, from memory?) managed to cure her son of autism, and countless others of neurological issues. In the past, if you’d have told me that diet could cure autism, I’d have punched you in the face and told you that you’re a moron.

I believe that, if nothing else, the diet and protocol that IHP put in place put his body into heal mode.

Now, for the record, let me state that I firmly believe I have PFS. Finasteride fucked me up, and I have never been the same since. It did something so sinister to me that the act of simply quitting the drug was not sufficient to make my symptoms go away. That much is true. And I’m sure that the molecular study will identify what it is that is wrong. But if someone can cure MS with diet, autism with diet, cancer with diet, then why can’t we cure PFS with diet too?

ANNNNNNND Now that I posted that, you’ve mentioned that you were being sarcastic. Sorry, I didn’t catch that sarcasm at the time even tho English is the only language I speak! :wink:

Mew can you please give us a link to the research that is currently taking place? Every research study has a submitted abstract that is available for public viewing. It should be on pubmed, I have been looking but I can’t find it.

Amen! Ditto! Yes! Hope so!

It won’t be on pubmed until it’s published. The scientists need credit for their work.

Thanks Mew.

This is a serious forum where lives are at stake. Go to myspace if you want to act like a jackass.

:laughing:

Just an FYI, Google uses a certain algorithm in order to rank websites on the front page for certain keywords. There’s ways to manipulate it and get yourself onto the top 10 on Google. That website you found is simply someone who made it, ranked it themselves, and then is trying to sell something to people who search for leaky gut. In no way can you use the ranks on Google to determine if something is quackery or not.

third person unable to detect the irony

Does anyone who is currently seeing a doctor have any desire to do the Zonulin test?

lol, if you say so.

It’s not a matter of getting credit. It is recognized that you’re working on the research project when you submit an abstract. THis is how research works. Every research study starts with an abstract that is available for public viewing. Can someone please just send the link or something?

No it doesn’t

Well an abtract, by definition, is indeed only made when the study has been fully completed, conclusions have been drawn, and it is ready for publishing. Its therefore only available when the study has been published.
I guess Drgreene refers to something similar to this clinicaltrials.gov/ which indexes ongoing or completed, currently recruiting or not clinical trials, but I think these informations are only shared on a voluntary basis, if Awor’s team doesnt want to make their study (not a trial) known to the public before its completion, they do not have to, obviously.

I dont know which is the university where the study is being conducted, but they probably have a database of ongoing studies where it can be find if possible (such as this clinicalstudies.info.nih.gov/ )