Give Vitex time, it gets better as time goes by, some of you may be real bad off, I do believe progesterone from Vitex is improving us by sensitizing androgen receptors. It has been a couple months now I think, but I haven’t been on as I have often forgot I had PFS, I added Pramipexole 0.125mg to the mix. It is a SUPER potent dopamine agonist antiprolactin, it also releases a lot of HGH, this was a surprise to me, 0.5mg of pramipexole releases 4iu of HGH from your pituitary! Start this very low, no higher than 0.125mg, slowly titrate up a little every week till you get to the dose that works. 1MG is very high, but plenty of guys on forums on 1mg and even more, but it is a very safe drug, the key is small doses, you all know me, I have used huge doses of everything. I have evolved to realize that low doses work better in many instances, with Vitex though, a low dose is a BAD idea as it will raise prolactin and kill your libido, so you must start at 1500mg or higher (I take 1600mg).
HGH increases response to testosterone, Vitex seems to increase endogenous testosterone really well, some of you who have really low test will require testosterone, you can only boost so much. The value that matters is bio available test, your total testosterone number is meaningless and deceptive, it was Dr Jacobs who told me this a while back. However, I highly suggest you guys try Vitex as a mono therapy, for those afraid of trying things, you can’t go wrong with Vitex. It seems nature designed it for PFS! It covers a lot of PFS bases, as for progesterone, I use a pea sized amount from a 20mg pump (prob about 1mg or 2mg or so). I use Progesterone when I have anxiety, it fixes it as progesterone reduces to alpregnenolone (a GABA neurosteroid). I also notice more 5AR gains after I use the progesterone a couple days later.
Progesterone seems to have lasting effects, I have had PERMANENT gains from my progesterone use. When I used 20mg 2-3X a day and experienced what some here call a “crash,” which it is not, it is just being exhausted from too much progesterone and it makes you dopey. I felt I had made a mistake, but a month later I stopped crashing from testosterone, in fact I have never crashed again, my anxiety was gone and I responded to test far more than ever before. Currently I have moved to Cortisol, I have realized PFS has crashed almost every neuro chemical and hormonal system in the body. Eventually your adrenals crash, I have found much of PFS is Adrenal Fatigue, so I have started hydrocortisone with amazing results so far.
Here is a post Moonman wrote up about it, he did a much better job than I will at explaining Adrenal Fatigue and Hydrocortisone.
allthingsmale.com/community/ … 101.20255/
Give Vitex time, it could take months for some people, it could take weeks for others, but Ihatepropecia and I have both noticed we are making more and more gains and responding to test better and better from it.
