Sorry for my terrible englisch in advance. I’ve decided to start a protocoll on my journey to recovery and hope to help some of you guys with my experiance because I know this state is like going through hell.
Will try to keep to the main points, because I don’t want to start in all the details. I know you guys know what symtoms we have to fight against. I’ve now got my mind to fight this symtoms. I now know I was a good looking athletic guy and not a depressed couch patatoe with no goal in life anymore.
To start with the story:
I took Finasterid for the period of 3 days because I knew my GF didn’t really like bald men and I wanted to do her a favor by maintaining my hair because hair loss bothered me for years uptil then and I took Priorin and everything. Like you guys know two doctors didn’t really tell me the truth about all the complications this can have. All in love I started from (03.02.2014 until 06.02.2014) and after that immediately noticed side effects that included:
- impotence
- low sperm volume
- shrinking
- emotinal changes
- loss of libido
- no sex drive
- puffy nipples
I straight on quit this shit but nothing happened and started to get slightly better after 2 weeks. At that time I had strange nightly erections without having a sexual thought but couldn’t really get it up for my self.
After 3 weeks I had a “high” that I was more than only horny and I felt my self like superman with even a larger penis (that’s what my GF told me too). Yes, sure had something to do with the DHT coming back in a big amount.
I thought that all was for good again and I’m balancing into normal again but like you guys know the worst part was to come.
After a period of 6 days I felt something strange happen. Like something (Guess DHT) is leaving my body. I was full of power and then couldn’t lift anymore because I had to cary around some furniture.
The next day I woke up and had balls hanging down to nowhere in a fire red color. Now I have something like dancing balls and really wrinkled skin. I hate looking at them because they really look sick. Before I had really nice skin there and round balls and was really potent.
Things got worse the coming monday. I was shopping with my GF and then suddenly realiced like my soul is somewhere else leaving me. I felt like dying with ear ringing, didn’t feel something like emotions, couldn’t think and really see something and actually felt like a zombie with no soul. Everybody else would say you have had a burnout but we know it isn’t.
Following days I had pains in my growing area and chronic anxiety and I couldn’t feel something like female atraction. It is really hard to try to stay your self and keep things running with my GF the best possible without really feeling something like being happy or emotions. Because she was and still is in my hope and future the girl I wanted to mary and get a family with. This keeps me fighting because I still know who I was and how I loved her over all in my life. She doesn’t feel the same anymore by now but is still with me going out of my way and told me I’m not the person she felt in love with. Even my parents told me this isn’t you in conversation. But she still believes in me and that I’ll be coming back. Worst thing is that we were planing to go to a new place and now we are here and I really was looking forward to this step with her and now I’m not able to be my self, really enjoy it with her or just have sex to keep things goin’. And all because of 3 freakin’ pills!? Something that can’t go in my mind and not even the doctors believe me. Sometime I even felt like a girlie what defenately isn’t my world.
The Dr. only told something like an 0.5% chance of erectile disfunction and that’s reversible after quiting the pill.
Yeah, f*** you. I’ll do everything to fight this state.
Now the main things:
- What did I do until now?
- What things helped?
- What maked things worse?
- What am I unsure about?
- What are my blood test results until now?
what helped?
First thing I did was to stop reading all thouse horror stories and put my mind to the recovery stories that are in this forum too.
This one personal I find the best one because it sems like a natural recovery and realistic: http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5042
I started to take vitamin infusions at a dr. place that at least somehow healed me from brain fog for a few hours and maked me dream for 2 days again, but didn’t hold. Now i’m taking a supplement called pro vital with vitamins and ginseng because the infusions were quite expensive.
I found out that if I don’t eat anything for one day and then some chicken with rice in the evening I’m having a short high of vision that not stays long though.
My morning procedure now is to take some soy shake with a spoon of creatine monohydrate and 3 tablets of maca throughout the day.
Don’t really know if it’s ilusion but somehow i feel fitter.
As next step I will start running in the morning with pushups and everything allthough i feel like shit, hope my body will function again like in some other recovery stories by forcing the body even more allthough you feel like shit until it “resets?”
http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5889
At least this is a beginning to regenerate for me.
What made things worse
I tried the supplement ZMA with Tribulus and Maca and had something like an total aggression later with hitting in the wall and punching my self in the face that i had a blue eye. Think this is because my body couldn’t deal with T.
I tried taking Tribulus it maked a well being for some time but when i woke up my penis and balls were all in red (even more). I read something about Tribulus having more an effect on highering oestrogens and I think this is one piece to my current problems.
What I’m unsure about
I bought a supplement named Free Test and took it for one day. It is known in bodybuilding to increase Testosterone and managing oestrogen and can be used as PCT too by Bodybuilders. It optimises androgen receptors too btw. I don’t know if this is the right way because my prostate and balls started hurting even more that day i took it and when I woke up i felt worse.
So I don’t know if it’s the right way to stick to it and make an 8 till 12 weeks pct with this supplement or just to leave it because symtoms got worse for the first day.
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/applied-nutriceuticals-free-test-100-capsules/a4-1009#.Uz09TlODbDc
What I don’t want to take until now
I’ve heared something about a supplement called sustain alpha in the forum that’s a gel. I’m afraid this might have impact on my own body to produce the real amount of T in future and all falls down again in a periode of some weeks. I’m still hanging on the thought of family and kids sometime when this problem is solved.
Next Dr. appointments
- Naturopath (for having a different view of things)
- Andrology Dr.
- Chinese medicine
Which Dr. visits didn’t bring me further
- Urologist (just told me organs are ok)
- General medicine (just told me organs are ok, got some blood test done too - see results below)
- Bad thing is that my “house dr.” has the hormon status bevore the crash but doesn’t take reference to them comparing the persent values and doesn’t really be open minded to PFS) “Hormonal ups and downs are normal and have nothing to do with sexual problems” He is a gr8 guy and helped me with a lot of things but he doesn’t give PFS a chance in his mind. Like the urologist too. He told he’s treating patients with a big postate from all over the place with 5mg and has no sides.
So nobody really believes. I told thouse too Dr. that I was doing sports for ages and knew my body well. This stuff didn’t happen until the point where I took Finasteride. But somehow I think I’m talking to a wall there.
General thoughts
- PCT
My until now blood test values
GOT (AST) 20 U/l < 50
GPT (ALT) 18 U/l < 72
y-GT 26 U/l < 78
Testosterone: 16.0 nmol/l (9.9 - 52,4)
Free Testosterone: 53.2 pmol/l (31.0 - 94.0)
Dihydrotestosterone: 350 pg/ml (300-850)
Oestradiol, 17-Beta 76 pmol/l (18 - 97) --> Think this is one part of the puzzle.
I don’t take reference to my organ values because theire all ok. But maybe someone has some advice out of thouse first T and oestrogen mesures. All welcome.
I will keep you updated in a 1 to 2 week basis and my experiance with sports too,