The body's vulnerability to fin increases with each period of usage - I'm living proof

-I apologize for any grammar issues as I’m Israeli and English is not my native tongue-

First of all let me begin by saying I’ve got to be the stupidest guy here - I actually dodged the bullet twice with this poison and went back for more - this time without a complete recovery. I was even vaguely aware of the existence of this site but chose not to read through it due to a childish belief that it would only serve to increase my chances of experiencing the side effects, which I then believed to be predominantly psychological.

I first began using the drug about 4 years ago at the age of 22. I took the pill for a year or so and then stopped because I was beginning to worry about the sexual side effects, which were then pretty mild (I was still contemplating the notion that it’s all in my head).
The second occasion was about six months later and lasted for several more months. Once more I eventually stopped due to the fact the side effects were becoming noticeable.
I started thinking about taking the drug again a couple of months ago after being constantly bombarded with an ad campaign promoting it (Merck is advertising heavily here in Israel). Obviously I was hesitant, but after reading somewhere that it’s possible to avoid the side effects by taking 1\2 a pill a day i finally decided 3 months ago to give it one more try. I took a total of 3 pills (!!!) over the course of one week prior to stopping and that was enough to send me to the hell. The sexual side effects all came back with force - weak erection, no nocturnal\morning erection, and watery ejaculation (I think my libido remained intact though) with an added bonus of weird sleep disturbances I’ve never experienced during my previous usage of the drug - I started waking up after 1 or 2 sleep cycles (1.5 to 3 hours) all throughout the night. I only associated that particular symptom with propecia after reading here about the potential for sleep problems. Recovery was longer this time and for about 3 weeks there was no change, until suddenly i sprung back to normality. Regretfully, that only lasted less than a week. By that time I’d read the site extensively and obviously I completely panicked thinking I had just experience the notorious crash. However since then I’ve had a couple more cycles of normal function, I guess it’s the “good days” phenomenon which some of you have experienced. Over all I’d say that since ceasing my usage of the drug about 25% to 30% of the time was comprised of short periods in which my sexual performance and sleep patterns were as good or almost as good as those of my pre-fin self.

I would be very interested in hearing from guys that also experienced good days along the way. Can I take that as a positive sign that things are going to steadily improve? did anyone reach a point where the “good days” last almost 100% of the time? any feedback would be most appreciated.

Welcome. Your english is fine. You should consider filling out the following to help others get a clearer sense of your history with the drug and symptoms experienced since.

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I’ll try to focus on the details not already mentioned:

  1. Where are you from (country)? Israel

  2. How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
    Read about it on a hair loss forum.

  3. What is your current age, height, weight?
    26, 1.77, 75kg.

  4. Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise?
    Half an hour of aerobics 5 times a week.

  5. What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)?
    I eat meat every day. Maybe it’s worth mentioning that I drink lots of diet coke.

  6. Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)?
    Hair loss.

  7. For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)?
    on several occasions as described above

  8. How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride?
    as described above

  9. How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?
    26, late April of this year

  10. How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
    cold turkey

  11. What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic?
    Propecia

  12. What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
    1mg/day first 2 times, 0.5mg/day on the last time

  13. How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects?
    Within two or three days in the last usage.

  14. What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?

Put an X beside all that apply:

Sexual
[ ] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[x] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[x] Loss of Morning Erections
[x] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[x] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[x] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[ ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[ ] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[ ] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[ ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ ] Slurring of Speech
[ ] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[ ] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[ ] Depression / Melancholy

Physical
[ ] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[ ] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[ ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[x] Other (please explain)
Sleep disturbances

  1. What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
    Didn’t take any so far

  2. If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?
    I took a blood test recently and the only abnormality was low iron. I wasn’t tested for hormone levels though.

  3. Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience with Finasteride?

  4. Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.