Testogel & Bone density

Since i started testogel i have a weird feeling that something is happening to my bones. Could it be they were not as dense as they should be and now they are going back to normal?

Feels as if something is ataching to them sometimes, especially around the ribcage, its a weird feeling and i know i complained about this when quitting propecia too. Cause my family told me i was going insane and my doc 2nd their opinon when i brought this up.

Any1else had this feeling?

It is extremely vexing when you hear stories like this.

The fact of the matter is that the sex hormones have wide ranging effects and in some way affect almost every cell in the human body.

More specifically testosterone and the androgen to estrogen balance play a significant roll in bone deconstruction and bone formation in both men and women.

So you have mentioned something to do with bone that you can’t quite put your finger on and you have been dismissed out of hand as a crackpot, in a word they are IGNORANT; in the doctionary definition sense as opposed to the invective use.

Many men with hypogonadism have osteopenia or osteoporosis because a long term lack of testosterone can cause bone deconstruction to outstrip bone remodeling/formation.

Testosterone is one of only a few hormones such as estrogen and growth hormone that act and are required by the body for bone reconstruction/formation.

They are osteoblastic stimulators.

Many men who are on incorrect TRT experience differing issues with bone pain, just as men who are on correct TRT who forget to take their meds can very quickly experience bone pain.

Given you are on TRT there should be no problem whatsoever in offering you a bone density scan (DEXA) and there should be no problem in helping you balance out your hormones so that you do not experience any kind of bone pain or issue.

In the next few weeks I am seeing one of the top bone specilaists in the UK.

I was left undiagnosed and untreated and hypogonadal for many years as a result I developed a condition called osteochondritis in an elbow that caused me to have to give up a career. It was then found that I also had developed osteoporosis in my lumber spine. My bone density is -2.8. That basically means that I could quite easily fracture my spine by just being unlucky and getting up out of a chair the wrong way. I could quite easily end up in a wheelchair for life.

Now I know that your situation is likely very different from mine, I know that you have probably only developed hormonal isues in recent times due to the finasteride. However, this is about your long term health and I think I am rightly and royally pissed off (excuse the language) when I hear of such ignorance and incompetance.

You need to get a copy of Dr Shippens book the Testosterone Syndrome. It has a whole chapter dedicated to testosterone’s effect on bone density and it is something you can let your doctor read/use to force them to act properly in your best interests.

Odds are you have no such problems, but presumption is poor medicine. Also to me such comments of bone pain or funny feelings that seem to be from the bones are in my experience often related to a poor hormonal balance- I have heard it so many time as a symptom. So if you are going to be on some form of treatment this need to be put right so you are well in the long term.

If you put the question of can low testosterone or a poor androgen to estrogen balance cause bone pain on the yahoo hypogonadism site

health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hypogonadism2/

I am certain people will concur with my opinion and observations.

The above site requires registration- you may find it helpful generally.