I’m not a scientist, but I don’t think they are necessarily pro-estrogen like things like soy, flaxseed, etc.
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I feel like shit last few days, just needed a place to share it… I am starting to feel more and more depressed as the time goes by, but I’m afraid to take anti depressants. Seems like there is no way out of this agony
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I see no way out of this agony too! I’m not human anymore, I’m vegetable now!
I take Bupoprion against my major depression. It’s not an SSRI or SNRI. It’s working on Dopamin. But I don’t give you the garanty that there are no side effects.
Your brother took SSRIS and got a rubbery dick.You got the problems from saw palmetto. What a family horror. It Sounds cruel.
Sorry to hear that man, the worst days living with this condition are totally insufferable. It takes a lot of strength to continue getting out of bed each morning and tackling this head on, but I believe you’re capable of it. If as a community we pool our efforts and raise awareness, commit to the community projects and raise funds for studies we can be confident that better days are ahead. I know how hard it is but we all need to hang in there until then.
With regards to taking antidepressants: don’t do it. Not under any circumstance. However bad you think your condition is now I can tell you for a fact it can get worse. This thing literally has no floor. An antidepressant is one of the most dangerous medications a person with a post-5AR inhibitor syndrome could take.
You think even Bupoprion is dangerous?
What’s your strategy to get out of the bed?
I stay now until 1 pm in bed. It’s like half bedbound!
Yes I do think Bupropion is potentially very dangerous for certain people. We literally have patients on this forum who were totally healthy people and are now in this situation from taking SSRIs so I could not in good faith advocate for an already existing patient taking such medications.
Bupropion isn’t an SSRI though
Yea I heard wellbutrin doesn’t have these sides since it is not ssri… Although I also heard it can cause anxiousness and I already got anxiousness and really bad panic attacks (I think from saw palmetto too), so I’m afraid to take that as well. Despair and depression is kicking in though and it’s getting hard to handle lately…
Yea my bro got rubber D from SSRI, and my second or third step cousin hanged himself out of nothing while he was on roaccutane. Nobody knew why but I’m very sure I figured out the reason now. We used to play a lot as kids 
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Oh shit, what a beaten family! 
Two young men you and your brother suffer on SSRI saw palmetto side effects, with sexual issues. And Ante killed himself because of Accetuane withdrawals.
There have been two brothers from Croatia both sick from Propetia and struggling with there own parents for being mentally ill, because the parents don’t believe in chemical induced disorder.
And I have heard of to German brothers, both bedridden after Finasterid.
These are not only stolen lives, including mine, these are destroyed family’s.
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How long are you into this? Do you have any Erection at all or its dead completely? And did you try viagra yet?
I had my crash on 6th of April 2021, so I’m in for 5 months. I crashed with my wonderful fiancee. On Finasterid I was still able after quitting nothing functioning any more. One week after the crash my dick came back to it’s normal flavid shape, brain connection and Libido came back. After Bupoprion erections are back. But never been able to have sex with a woman again. The worst thing Viagra doesn’t work after developing PFS. Fiancee is gone, my live is over, I’m a shell of my former live. With the permanent anhedonia every new day is a torture. I ll never have a woman again. Otherwise I would have a wonder recovery. Or a penile implant. This is a fucking live. A torture. But I’m going on like an animal, wich life just for nothing. The best thing, I’m 59 an have lifed more than 3/4 of my live as a normal man, before a urologist killed myself.
It’s still early, let your body adjust and heal itself, some symptoms will get better with time 100%. And if your fiance left you for this then she didn’t deserve you anyway! I haven’t tried cialis or viagra yet but I think lclt (carnitine) helped me get my nocturnal and morning wood again… Also I will order penis ring soon as I heard its pretty useful on other ED forums, it supposedly prevents blood from flowing out of penis.
There is plenty of girls that have problems like us, many also taking accutane, so surely there is a soul mate out there for you/us too… I suppose its not all about sex, and as I said I think we can still have sex with right tools (penis ring +cialis) 
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Can somebody change the topic title. Suicide is not something I want to look forward to
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I think whether I’m alive or not, it’s a torture to my relatives. My parents are going crazy. They ask for medicine everywhere for me. Thank fucking Merck. Please, for God’s sake, provide enough anesthetics for each patient. The postage can be paid by myself.LOL.
I envy those guys who only have ED.The living should work together and hope that one day, everyone will be treated.
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Until 15 Feb when I took the first pill It was a joy to life. Wonderful house, money from rental, lovely child, friends, stunning fiancee.
Than I started the fucking Poison with out any medical reason a urologist had handed me out just to try.
Since this day an the crash in April my life is altered to a torture.
I’m totally out of any control. Most other patients still working, studying, suffering but never lost the control over their life’s.
Im 24/7 going mad. My brain is totally out of control. I stay in bed to deny my existence. It’s so unbelievable how my live changed over less than half a year, from the crash up to now.
Having a gun in my household I would like to end up torture without pain. In Europe suicide us mostly painful. Jumping in front of a train or jumping from a high house. And my daughter would be psychological damaged by this.
I know if this thoughts become more real i have to enter the emergency of a mental hospital.
I’m afraid of going to a mental hospital. U have to check up they accept a drug free therapy, because I m suffering a drug site effect.
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Of course, I want to commit suicide every day, but when I think of so many people still insisting, what are salamanders and candy houses doing? They work hard for us. And my parents, even if I am paralyzed in bed in the future, I am not reconciled. How healthy and wise I used to be. I believe we are just a few “switch” problems. I am exhausted every day, but I am constantly told that persistence will improve. I don’t want to die. Wait. Even a mass of shit can alleviate my mental problems.
Damn machine translation, make do with it, ha ha ha
You’re right. That’s it. There’s no fun.“American horror story”.hhh
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It’s a German horror story.
And I prefer to everyone to read all the recover Stories and stories of living on as best as if possible.
Maybe I’m the Schopenhauer “suffering philosophist”, Camus and Hiob prophecy amongst all users. In my old life have been Epikur, de Sade and Lucullus but now I’m an empty she’ll of my old self.
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