Suicidal thoughts

Every day, when I see the amount of body hair my body’s suddenly grown in just 3 months, I’m reminded that I actually never had MPB in the first place and how stupid I was to take it despite the around 1300 pictures I’d taken from January until May 19. My body hair is too dark and too dense for my age and ethnicity, especially compared to right before I took finasteride. I really mind it. I probably wouldn’t have it if not for fin and the increase in testosterone. I didn’t listen when people and my mother always told me my hair looked OK. I would rather read “early prevention” stories and about finasteride users of my age on /r/tressless and think my case was similar. Instead, it only began after I took finasteride, along with the body hair growth, maybe due to upregulation and that increase in testosterone. Only now are my temples really receding and my hair getting noticeably thinner. My hair in May was, looking back, even better than in February or March. My skin has turned so rubbery and stretchy body-wide. Touching my face is now so depressing, as if I could pull the entire skin off. It just feels lifeless. So, I took it for a made up cosmetic reason and this is the result. Aren’t the body hair growth and my elastic skin just signs of aging? My penis feels dead, my libido is gone and my breathing problem got worse, my muscles are gone, I always wake up fatigued, never rested. I still feel confused when looking in the mirror. I feel much worse than even last week. Last week I probably felt the same. Doctors tell me it’s all psychosomatic. I can’t believe how slowly time now passes. I just regret it so much. I actually knew better than to take it, but at the last moment I just wanted to get it over with and swallowed the pill. 2 hours later came the testicular pain. After 2 days my penis lost sensitivity. Didn’t end there of course. Lately my testicles have been twitching and tingling randomly, I feel as if my genitals have shrunk. I personally don’t think it’s PFS per se, rather just taking finasteride at 17 during puberty. I could maybe have avoided it if I’d just waited out my “hair loss” until I was 18 or a bit later. See if I really needed to. It was so easy. Why did I take it at 17 despite the pictures and even though it’s advised against? Why did I have to get 5 days of testicle pain in the first place even though it’s supposedly rare? I’ve gone to doctors, they all told me this was purely psychosomatic, my skin was fine, my body hair’s fine, and that a single pill couldn’t possibly cause any of this. They all told me my testosterone which rose from a normal 24nmol to 39nmol in just 3 months, which remained since, was enviable.

Sometimes I want to kill myself. Not that I’m at the point of planning it out or actually considering it. I can’t really distract myself anymore and instead I always think about what could’ve been every hour at the slightest reminder. I really feel as if I’ve changed as a person. I’ve felt that I’m not as bright as I was before. Anyway, I just feel like I don’t want my entire life and my youth to be defined by 1/4 of a small blue pill that I took on a pure whim. And now with my physical changes, I just can’t feel comfortable in my own (very elastic and hairy) skin anymore. It just seems so silly. I sometimes feel like I have to atone by killing myself and it kind of sounds nice, just deserts and so on. I just want to end it all. This is not how it’s supposed to go. Maybe all of my problems with hair loss and such boiled down to just late-teen angst, but instead I went all the way to take medication with (lifelong) symptoms that have only worsened over 4 months. And even then, I’m not supposed to commit suicide because of a drug for hair loss, but what can you do.

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Just hang in there. Many people recover on their own and you’re so young. Yes it was a mistake and yes that stuff is dangerous poison, but even if a cure is ten years away you’ve got SO MUCH life to live after that it’s unreal.

Ride it out as best you can and wait. It’s not easy to try and be positive, I certainly didn’t want to hear THAT crap after I’d just crashed either, but relax if you can and do something you enjoy if you can. Eat healthy, exercise a bit, those things cheer me up lots. :slight_smile:

Most importantly don’t quit friend.

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Dont worry man, a lot of people have gone through the suicidal thoughts/depression, it’s all part of the bullshit finasteride induces, ride it out and hopefully you’ll see a gradual recovery, just get the suicide out of your head.

What about my body hair and skin? How are those supposed to recover to how they’d be without ever taking fin? What if I actually caused my hair loss only in May by taking fin for no good reason? What about my genitals or how my libido is so completely gone that I might as well be asexual? How I’m basically emotionally dead and unable to care about anything anymore? Thanks for the encouragement, but my symptoms show no signs of recovery and something else always comes up whenever it seems like it.

I was a norwood 1.5 and shedding like crazy now, got more hair growth aswell, my facial wrinkles on my face got way more prominent, looks like i’ve aged 2 years in 3 months, check the video i uploaded here and see how stretchy my skin is, it’s all over my body. My dick looks like shit, wrinkly and not as before, had all the mental sides in my second crash 1 week after my first, where it was only physical, and i still got some weird ass derealisation that’s always there 24/7 which is my worst side right now.

Give it time. You’re only 17, i know hair and appearance is important at that age, but it’ll be a learning experience that’ll make you realize how vanity<health

Nobody knows shit about this condition and the studies (with tiny sample sizes and using rats, by the way, with largely inconclusive results) aren’t really helpful other than to deter young men from taking fin. If I actually have PFS, there would only be thousands like me, mostly not nearly as young, and I’d be stuck complaining about every new side effect popping up every 2 weeks and pre-existing ones worsening until someone maybe finds a concrete explanation for this condition. If I don’t, awesome, but I still took hormonal medication during puberty which may have caused all of this. Idk, I feel quite surrounded.

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Don’t think you’re the worst case, a lot of people got it bad, try CDnuts protocol, even though 99% of people on PH hates him

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Nobody knows shit about this condition and the studies (with tiny sample sizes and using rats, by the way, with largely inconclusive results) aren’t really helpful other than to deter young men from taking fin. For example, how does inhibiting 5AR cause aging skin? How exactly does cerebrospinal fluid methylation cause a limp penis? If I actually have PFS, there would only be thousands like me, mostly not nearly as young, and I’d be stuck complaining about every new side effect popping up every 2 weeks and pre-existing ones worsening until someone maybe finds a concrete explanation for this condition. If I don’t, awesome, but I still took hormonal medication during puberty which may have caused all of this. Idk, I feel quite surrounded. Browsing this forum 24/7 and others while waiting for badly done studies from pfsf doesn’t sound like an appealing lifestyle. I’d rather die with dignity than already be an empty shell 17 with additional physical changes (basically rapid aging).

No one knows exactly, but skin changes yeah they suck, but there are always solutions whether it’s cosmetics or whatnot, i don’t see the point in throwing a life away that can be restored. I think the fear of being completely damaged and broken attributes to the severity of your thoughts, bear in mind millions take this shit, some with no side-effects whatsoever. So, in theory it’s not a life-altering drug in most cases, but in few it is. Give it time, try different diets and experiment on it, work out, there are millions of options to try.

Skin changes don’t only suck since getting cosmetic surgery to fix fat loss or collagen loss would be equivalent to anti-aging regimes. Well, not even my 50yo mom would need to. It’s as if my face is hollowed out. My skin is rubbery, lost all of its texture and tightness, but thankfully it only sags a bit that nobody else notices changes. That and my nonexistent libido are my biggest concerns. Second is my hair loss, and honestly, it’s a punch in the gut how I now realize that there was no MPB whatsoever prior to fin. Makes sense since I had no family history of balding. Maybe I already had low DHT. There’s also my body hair which I honestly find disgusting, but it’s more of a reminder I wake up to than anything.

I’m sure we all got reminders that we wake up to everyday, i know i do. But skin is least of my concern right now, if you don’t have mental issues, you’re already ahead of the curve!

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I have those too, I def don’t feel as sharp as before. My critical thinking went down the drain. Being constantly fatigued and anxious doesn’t help matters either. Only happened around 2/3 weeks ago too, before that I thought I’d enter the school year sharper than ever for graduation, but nope. Oh and also, my adam’s apple might be shrinking and my testicles too, idk about that either. Maybe my penis too.

You are not alone mu friend if there is any comfort in that…we are all together in the fact we all took something that jacked us up and we all severely regret it…it is a terrible sad situation but with that said there is hope and tou need to try and stay optimistic. We have all experienced the same thing with know one believing us but people have recovered and tou are young so you have e very good chance at a full on recovery. Each one of us has our own journey through this and I wish you the best of luck man. It sucks I know…we all me included are going through this mess to some degree or another so your not alone brotha. Keep your head up and learn what you can. I wish you all the best.

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I can somewhat understand what you’re going through. When I first crashed, all I could think about was suicide. Every single day. Every moment. I literally could not shake it and for the first three months life felt absolutely fucked up save for a few hours every month. I crashed a few months after my 18th birthday, and I’d be lying to you if I said the fact that I got this so young doesn’t fuck me up even now. But I held on, and I’m still trying my best to hold on. The science appears to be coming along alright, and if I had to offer you a piece of advice it’s to try and see what works for you lifestyle wise. If working out doesn’t make you have a crash, do it. Meditate, eat a consistent diet that’s PFS safe, try and push yourself through the motions until things get better. They will. I know you don’t believe that now, and I know all of this is unfair, but just hold on.

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Try water fast or dry fast for a month

Dry fast for a month? One would be 3+ weeks dead from dehydration. And one month of water fast may be life threatning as well, I wouldnt recommend such long periods

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There is a guy who does 23 days of dry fast, but he is doing that for years. The most you can do at the moment probably is 24 to 48 hours max. It does not happen overnight…

I wouldent reccomed it either but in order to shock the body you have to take drastic measures. Us propecia victims have no choice. The body need to be in shock. This is the purpose. Water fast is hard but safe if you stay in your home all day and rest. Many people have done it before

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