I hate to be the one to say it but they are all pretty tame recoveries. It’s fairly obvious that all of those guys were never that bad and had a decent chance of natural recovery anyway. To be fair though, what is the harm in trying. It should certainly do us good.
when i said “figure out my problems”, i was referring to PFS, NOT hairloss. 
the mechanisms involved in hair loss coincide with what is happening with PFS… and that guy has far more expansive knowledge on hair loss than anyone else i’ve found on the net.
Oh really? And how is that exactly, considering the root cause of PFS has yet to be found?
You are making statements based on conjecture.
It’s pretty obvious that hair loss and PFS have a direct connection considering that 1, most members here took finasteride for hair loss, 2, many people have reported hair loss being halted even after discontinuing finasteride and are suffering from PFS, and 3, by blocking DHT it’s stopping hair stopping from falling out and bringing out persistent sexual side effects (in our case).
plus, a lot of people who don’t suffer from PFS and get off propecia, their hair loss accelerates right away. and another thing, i’ve read people who on this website had recoveries, posted that their hair loss accelerated again.
Its a good topic.
Some of my sides got moderately better at peak fitness. During these periods I was running 45-65miles a week, intervals, hard long runs and a few slow runs each week.
My sleep almost seemed back to normal. 5-6 nights of good sleep a week (my worst side).
Libido a tiny bit better.
I took a 6 week break from hard running and only swam 1/2 our 5-6 times a week. The moderate exercise wasn’t enough, and my sleeping went to crap again (2-3 decent nights of sleep sometimes less a week). And went back to a lower Libido
I cant speak for anyone else, but for me, HARD exercise does give some relief, but its by no means a cure
I have had an experiance like this for 1 evening my brainfog basically went and it was after hard, hard exercise.
And it would appear that moderate exercise, which gives no help to my symptoms beefs up the immune system.
Are our immune systems on overdrive? Is there evidence? I dont remember reading much on the board about this
From what ive read and heard. Running or other long endurance activities lower the immune systems defenses. I cant remember where I heard this but consuming carbs after an extended exercise event helps bring the immune system back up.
This is very hopeful to hear, even if exercise is just symptom management , it let’s us live our lives as best as we can given our condition. But I do hope you and me can experience 100%, or even just enough to live normal life by.
Maybe the pieces are starting to come together.
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Back in the old Big Softie days, sufferers worked out to boost T levels. There’s obviously more to it than that. But it appears that resistance training can help fight PFS by upregulating expression of the AR.
The benefits quoted here are likely due to a short term stress reaction to heavy exercise including but not limited to cortisol spike and insulin release.
My hairloss still continued after I stopped taking Prosar and I’ve had zero recovery.
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to the canonical activation of signalling
kinases and transcription factors, it is now
evident that exercise may also play tag with
our genome via chromatin remodelling,
opening up new avenues of research
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Weightlifting may not be increase T level. I started weightlifting on 7.20.2012. My T level on 7.23.2012 was 402 ng/dl (160-726)
Today, (1 month later after started weightlifting) i got tested my T level again. It is 386 ng/dl (160-726)
Even though if it increases it, im very in doubt about this. Because i tried to increased my androgens via supplements and got worse. Why i got worse? Because on some sufferers, increasing androgens has an adverse effect on the symptoms. But maybe, exercising naturally has an positive effect in case of increasing androgens naturally. Who knows, if anyone knows anything about this, please answer my question. Should i exercise or not? What is the difference between taking androgen increasers without exercising? Because my job consists of sitting all day and reading, im angry at my life style.
Do you exercise regularly and strictly for at least 6 months? I see many people claim exercise is a really important part of our recovery, but now i have no time at all to go to any gym to lift weights.
- Has anyone experienced real improvements with weightlifting? If so, how long it took to see a result?
Exercise makes me feel good the day I do it but the following days leave me almost too fatigued to function
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I enjoy it, but then again I always did it previously for years and years.
I took a break of a few weeks about a month back and I certainly can’t lift now what I once could, but it feels like it’s slowing what is a gradual decline rather than outright ‘helping’ - but maybe it is/it will again, idk.
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Weightlifting before dawn, or as early as possible (right now dawn in the UK is before my gym opens, so I have my hands tied), makes me feel so much better. I have fallen out of the habit in the last month, though am back on it as of this week. I highly recommend it.
Regarding fatigue, I find it is much much worse from cardio exercise, not so bad from just lifting.
@Cooper if you cant go to the gym, could you just get up 20mins earlier and do press ups / chin ups / ab crunches / wall squats until you can’t do more. It is not as good as pushing heavy weights, but I saw a post from someone somewhere (there are so many i have read on here and SPFS that I lose track so can’t find it right now) who said he did chin ups until failure every morning and it got him through the day.
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I’m going to try 5x5 strongmans for a few months. Let’s see if this results in more morning wood and nocturnals as well as a better mood.
I find that days where I exercise at 6:30AM are usually significantly better (less depressed, more libido, more energy)
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Thanks for posting this. Very optimistic. Gives me hope!