They matter, did they not come with the results?
Things i notice in regards to my latest rants:
Your biliburin is top of the range and some of your choleserol numbers seem low ie hdl, do you have the ranges for these?
Vitamin d low…once again, like everyone…what the hells going on here? I highly doubt its recepors, due to the process it has to go through before it gets there.
The sooner you decide on a treatment the better in my opinion. You could at least ask him why not clomid first I guess. Jacobs wants me to this also. Frankly right now my sides are so intolerable that I might just do it. According to Jacobs you can go on TRT for up to a year or so and your natural production should not be affected. But, Shippen says everyone just improves for a little while then they are back to full sides. And, that seems to be most of the guys say here. Since the clomid and T3 did nothing for me and Im the same I think I might try it though. Honestly, Jacobs is probably the most qualified person we have to make determinations about treatment.
thyroid treatment takes time. You may end up needing HGH, HCG, TRT.
The only way you will know if you need HGH though is getting your IGF-1 levels taken and to see what quartile you fall under. Optimizing everything is important in getting better. That includes Thyroid, human growth hormone, testosterone, Neurotransmitters.
For some, GHB worked very well because it helped increased IGF-1 levels.
This is going to taken time and patience. I think if done right, and the proper blood tests are administered, you will get better.
Hi youngbuck21
I can understand your frustration, everybody is having the same issues. your TT decline is dramatic, in just 5 days it hit the floor. I thinks you should wait a little bit more and go for the followin tests
1-Activin
2-inhibit B (as suggested by Kazman, I wanted to write about it but Kazman has already done so). Inhibin B is low (FSH etc high) in infertile men but our case is interesting as it is low but we are still inftertile. So we should find why our Activin and inhibin B are not normal.
3-please read my post at viewtopic.php?f=27&t=4309. There are some tests ,if possible get them done.
I am trying the same for my self.
Youngbuck, I’d start getting sun if you can. Those vitamin d scores are bad.
Also, it’s probably related, but your cholesterol is pretty low just like mine. I’m 143. Vitamin d can’t be produced correctly without sufficient cholesterol.
I drink far more water post fin and piss less. Is the pissing less common to you?
I used to get this also first couple of months but it subsided so hopefully will be the same for you.
I was peeing alot while on fin as well, and it wasn’t small dribbles. I was always thirsty, and would go to the bathroom constantly emptying almost a full bladder.
Actually I think it was mainly my penis. Talk to Jacobs about it maybe and get his take? More than likely lack of androgens. DHT gel to your penis and testicles might take care of it. It took care of the cold feeling I would have in my penis all the time. Definately couldnt hurt and worth the try in my opinion. I wish I would have gotten on this stuff months ago instead of living with a painfully cold and shrunken penis.
Get the DHT gel, sooner the better. I have a feeling thats gonna help you alot in terms of sensitvity in your penis and maybe the pain in your testicles. Its done me wonders. I still have pain but it makes it more managable. Hang in there, first few months off Fin are often the worst.
Dr. Jacobs is wicked busy. The key to getting ahold of him is quick short notes. Or, maybe try emailing Anne. Don’t take it personally, the guy probably gets tens if not hundreds of emails daily. He will get back with you I’m sure.
Good idea - Make an appointment to see Shippen. You would have two treatments to chose from. One doesnt work try the other, and so on. Dr. Shippen has a couple of nurses that you can ususally get ahold of to relay info to Dr. Shippen and back that same day if you have questions. There definately isnt ego clashes between the two, they seem to want to work together on PFS. Just keep one or the other up to speed with what your trying. Don’t stay at the Best Western down the street. I had bugs all over my room last time I was there. Pony up and stay at the Suites hotel about a half hour away.
I used to get huge dry spots on my face and above my lip in the few months after I quit fin. I think that is probably a Fin related issue and not due to your other meds. For me that went away after time. Definately dont quit the vit d over it. Maybe some vit e supps? Take one or two tabs orally and break open another and apply the gel directly to the affected area. That worked for me.
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Fuck man, that does not sound nice at all - things will improve, I am sure of it mate.
Sometimes high levels of IGF-1 will cause strange bone development on the face. I have a very high IGF-1 but as of yet havnt had any facial features I’ve noticed change. Sometimes I think maybe my chin has gotten a little bigger. Have you checked your IGF-1 levels?
Alot of us get the prominent vein on the side of the penis. I have this also since Fin.