Remember I posted a while back about a protein found in newts that was present in their stem cells and was important in specialization, ie going from stem cell to muscle cell, bone cell, etc?
Seems researchers have found a similarly functioning protein in human pluripotent stem cells -
biosciencetechnology.com/News/2012/08/Stem-Cells-Can-Become-Anything,-but-Not-Without-This-Protein/
I was wondering what you guys think about this:
What if finasteride caused a severe hormonal drop that damaged our cells down there to the point of not being repaired. So even if your hormones recover months later, the damage is done. I really believe stem cells in this case would be able to help. If the damaged cells could just be replaced and provided the adequate hormones are there, those new cells could proliferate and replace the damaged structures.
This may also be what Awor’s study is finding in terms of androgen receptor. Maybe whats happening is that the cells that are there are no longer responding to androgen because they are so damaged or they have atrophied altogether. We may need new cells that are healthy and can respond to hormones to recover full functioning.
Surely thats a problem with the ‘androgen receptor theory’. It doesnt distinguish between epigenetic changes and ‘the damage that is done’.
lol, but the antibody theorie does?! That was a good one. Oscar, if you have a Problem, with any theorie and know it better. Go and do the tests for it. You are just writing and doing nothing, than pulling other in the dirt. In Germany we call this Maulheld. for me it sound like, you are thinking more about awors theorie than you owen one. I dont see Awor here saying something against your posts. Why? simple he trys to help and is working on this, not like you who is sitting and writing here about other ones theories. So, get your ass up and do something!
seriously! this thread needs to focus on joetz, who has actually done what we are discussing and is not theorizing about things. keep the thread on track and get rid of the bull crap!
Yes, so many treats are destroyed by belivewars and useles posts. This is not a theorie treat, its joetz treat about stem cell therapy.
I’ve been getting PMs saying you guys would like frequent updates (I figured you’d get bored but I guess not) so I’ll try to post every day
So far I feel good. I continue to be astonished by how fast the liposuctioned area is healing. Since its not possible to heal so fast from something so invasive and traumatic, I have to conclude the stem cells have accelerated my healing. There is no other explanation. What happened to me is exactly like what happens to lipo patients when on YouTube. It’s a violent stabbing sawing motion of rods under your skin. I shouldn’t be able to go back to work in two days but I am and continue to get better very quickly.
As for sexual improvements, I am making some progress I think. Today when I was walking down the stairs and I had a moment when in felt so turned on I had to think of other things to get my mind out of the gutter. Usually I am forcing my mind to think sexual things, not the other way around. I hope these moments become more frequent as time goes on
any raging boners with those sexual thoughts?
either way, thanks for the update man, you know we are all pulling for you in the biggest way … very brave of you man!
Any sexual thought that enters your brain spontaneously is a great sign =p.
I’m doing what I can. I don’t have the balls to show my face in the media like some people here do, but I do have the balls to try expensive radical cutting edge treatments that may or may not cure PFS. I’m glad I can help in my own way
Absolutely, well done mate. I realise its early days, but any improvement in erection quality so far?
Joetz,
Im seriously considering trying stem cell therapy myself.
What did you tell the Dr.s about your condition? Where was there focus?
Was the intent to help both hormonal (i.e. libido) as well as mechanical (ED and sensation)?
Any advice you can give me on how to approach Dr with my condition would be appreciated.
Yes, an improvement, but I still have a long way to go. The eye pain and perineum pain is totally gone and I had a few spontaneous erections today
I think the best way to describe things is by what I’m NOT feeling. I’m not constantly reading every thread on here 200 times a day like I was when I was at my worst. I’m not constantly thinking about how awful I feel and I’m not googling PFS 24/7. It’s way too soon to know exactly what is going on in my body or if I’m going to recover but so far results seem promising after only a week
My problem isn’t hormones though. Before the stem cell therapy was done I had very extensive bloodwork done and everything hormonally came back perfectly. Not only was everything good, I had levels that was akin to someone ten years younger than me and in peak health. That’s why my condition is so hard to treat. My hormones (at least this past year) were great.
I just explained to the doctor that I felt like complete and total garbage. I told him my eyes were bothering me, I felt weak, had extremely poor energy levels, poor motivation, poor sleep, poor memory, cognitive deficits, weak appetite, depression, flat moods, and no sexual function. This doctor knows about finasteride and knows it makes a lot of men very sick, so I really didn’t need to explain much.
I really think you should wait and see if I get cured before spending money on this. How long have you been sick? If we were talking about a supplement that cost thirty dollars I would say, “yeah, sure, go ahead” but we are talking 8-10 grand and that’s a lot of coin. I’m going to keep updating the thread on my progress but for now my advice would be to wait and see how I do.
very good attitude. Please guys be patient, wait and see. Don’t waste your money like Kos frenzies. Where guys lost their money and some lost their health too.
No one wants another Kos clusterfuck. That’s why even the doctor wants to wait and see. I told him I could send probably dozens of patients, but his first reaction was that we should be 100% sure it helps first. I find that refreshing because less ethical places would just take everyone’s money regardless of whether or not they can help patients. And it is a lot of money.
No new news to report today really. I’m still hovering around a 25% improvement sexually. One thing I can’t really figure out is why my bowel movements have changed. I used to go for over 24 hours sometimes and get quite a bit constipated and now I’m going very frequently. Digestion in general seems greatly improved. Had two massive bowel movements this morning in a three hour period. My sleep is also improved and my body is craving LOTS of it. Woke up today at 6:30 because of the rough Florida weather and an hour later my body was desperately craving more sleep. With heavy eyes I went back to bed for another hour and when I closed my eyes, my mind went into a dream state where I was consciously controlling the events and situations within a dream. Good stuff
How I feel really depends on the time of day but I am at my absolute best at around 10AM and around 3PM. Not sure why though
Unfortunately, or fortunately, time of day seems to dictate my mood with PFS too. I have always been a night person, and I am consistently more clear-headed at night. Mornings/afternoons are absolute hell for me… pretty consistently.
I’m watching this thread with a lot interest. You have a great attitude Joetz and 25% improvment in that short time is amazing! You seem to be on the right track, I sincerely hope this works for you.
I
recently had one of those lucid dreams you are talkin about. In the dream I was horny as a MF. I was glad and thankful to have the experience -however brief- and also sad at remembering how good it used to feel. Its nice to know somewhere deep in my unconscious something is still there.
I had another dream last night where it felt like I left my body. In the dream I asked what is it that is broken in all of us and when will we have some answers. I remember in the dream I saw three hawk feathers stuck in the ground at the end of a garden. It was a house that I knew to be my great aunts house. I then saw a Mayan calender thingy. Mabe well have some good news at the end of December.
I’m leaning on anything for hope these days.