Stem cells as a therapy

Any way Joetz can post the name of the Doctor who performed the procedure?

It doesn’t seem to have cured anyone here.

i thought joetz was cured?

Joe can you please answer this question I am desperate dis your emotions continue to improve on your second treatment I am an artist and really miss them

I spoke with joetz recently. He can come correct me if I interpreted the PM wrong but it seems he remains recovered mentally (where he previously had SEVERE issues) and sexually things are decent but fluctuating. He estimates the procedure jumped his overall recovery forward 3-5 years from where it would have been naturally.

Given that this procedure is known to have miraculous effects on those with dementia, I fully believe it could be very beneficial for or outright cure mental sides. Not so sure about sexual sides, but honestly at this point I could accept never fucking again if I could regain my old self. The doctor Kentucky went to is in my town, so I’ve been seriously considering it lately.

And of course, like anything on this board, every protocol is different, every person’s PFS case is different, and your results will most assuredly be different. It may work out even better for you, it may make you worse. Tread carefully.

Nonsense, I am getting so much better mentally and my memory is improving, again sexually it fluctuates but the clearer thinking is happening. It mimics joetz, like many others here. Don’t waste your money

I agree he may have got better anyway. Mentally I’m back to about 100% I can even enjoy alcohol now.

He indeed may have gotten better after several more years if he didn’t kill himself first. But it seems pretty clear it’s the stem cells that are responsible for his sudden elimination of mental sides. It’s incredibly unlikely he would have just randomly recovered coincidentally at the exact time he had that procedure after years of being in a constant shitty state with no real improvements. It’s kind of the inverse of the argument that one doctor made, “you would have developed ED anyway it’s just coincidence you took Propecia at the time.”

Okay so I have severe brain damage from SSRIs, literally no emotions and no sex drive.

I am getting stem cells.

However, Joe, I am wondering what kind of treatment did you get? There are Multipotent, Pluripotent, and Embryonic. The best kinds are Pluripotent and embryonic as they can turn into any type of cell but still research is behind and they can cause cancer. Anyhow I plan on getting multiple treatments of this if he it keeps working I want a 100% cure. please let me know what type you got, I want to get the treatment asap.

I have it super bad,

No emotions, I do not even feel sadness or misery, no imagination, no pleasure in taste or anything at all. I am completely zombified.

I am getting Embryonic Stem cells, and will be getting them every week, I convinced my family to donate a couple hundred thousand to the treatment, being they made me take SSRIs for so long which completely ruined my life. I have to wait 6 months until the procedure, I am so close to sucide because I lost so much and was once literally a genuis in the 99% of my IQ. I am aiming to be cured 100%, I use to experience bliss at crazy amounts of highs, I want it back. Here is my plan.

Embryonic Stem cells, once a week
HBOT sessions regularly
Exercise/meditation
Diet, fruit and veggies
Brain stimulator regularly

I truly hope to report back to everyone a 100% cure I am aiming for it, to be a genius again. Who knows if this is possible, because I am truly brain dead right now - no joke - I lost everything and consider myself asexual.

Joe, or someone else please answer this question,

What kind of stem cell therapy did you get?

How much did your emotions improve on the second round?

I am getting Embryonic, I assume you got Adult, which only turns into some cells, but embryonic turns into all, so I hope to have a better success with it. If I can be cured anyone can.

I got a small liposuction and the cells were created with my body fat

The second round didn’t really benefit me like the first round did. I wouldn’t recommend doing it twice. I feel like a second round is sort of like changing your cars oil twice or defragging your computers hard drive twice.

I had very big gains on the mental/congnitive side from the first round though.

Please keep us posted on how your therapy goes. My flavor of PFS is a little different than some of the stuff I see on the forum so I’m curious to see how other people do

Hey guys I would concur with Joetz. It has been over a year since my treatment and I would say the benefits were mostly mental and very little sexual. Maybe given enough time mental sides would have reduced anyway. But perhaps the stem cell treatment did spur increased neurogenesis… which can help with any mental side effects. Hard to say if it was for sure what helped me… but if you are extremely depressed and suicidal. I think the stem cell treatment is worth a try especially if you have the money. If its between killing yourself and blowing a few thousand on stem cells I’d try the stem cells and wait 7 or 8 months and see if you feel the same then.

Cool thanks for the reply.

Is anyone else considering getting stem cells?
Adult stem cells arent pluripotent, iPS, Fetal, and Embryonic are. Wondering if anyone else is interested in getting those types, as I am, would be interesting to also see their results.

Okay,

Joe, I have one more question: How were the stem cells injected?

The place I’m looking at does it through the blood stream, so the stem cells will not only heal my brain but everywhere in the body which may supposely help healing more efficiently.

And BP, what changed that makes you no longer suicidal?

Apparently this place claims, all people who have had it done have increased libidios, and that they did a study “proving” it reverses aging, with a biological clock and increasing cell life.

It’s going to take 6 months for the cells to be created. I can not feel love or fear at all, so life is easy to get by in but really feels worthless, no pleasure at all and too much thinking. I hope to yield results that are up in 80-100% healed, though it seems unlikely, nothing is impossible.

I would have to agree with Finatruth. Time is a factor we can’t really use as a comparison tool, but … After taking Fin for 7 years and just now starting 5th year in recovery, I’m seeing improvements in all areas. Not 100% yet, but the past 6 months I’ve noticed the most gains ever. I’ve tried just about every treatment on this site.

I cycle through about 48 different vitamins/supplements/minerals, diet, exercise with heavy weights, avoid alcohol, sugar, gluten, carbs, drink lots of water and have already gone through TRT. My list of treatment trials is long, but when I reached a point of wanting to die, especially after my wife filed for divorce, this is when I got serious about diet, exercise and actually doing all the right things for health. It turned me around in less than 6 months in a big way.

I’m not saying stem cell treatment won’t help or cerebrolysin, but I do think its possible to recover without them.

I had mine done by IV, straight into the bloodstream.

This is a VERY hard problem to fix and I think hoping for 80-100 percent recovery is a little too ambitious if you have severe symptoms

I’ve been thinking about this stuff some more and I really think there is “an ideal candidate” for the therapy. If you are spending hours wandering around the mall parking lot because you can’t remember where you parked your car or you feel like you are going insane because you feel like you are trapped inside your brain this will help you. If you are looking to to get your sex life back permanently then maybe it’s better not to spend the money

I got back most of my sexual function but only while the stem cells were still replicating. After one year they start dying and with their death my sex drive started waning

Now what I do is try to drink a tea that has some kind of detox properties and 3 hours later I’ll be able to perform ok.

What changed that makes me not suicidal? Well I think that you are thinking that the sexual side effects are what is causing many of us to be extremely depressed which is not the case. No doubt the sexual side effects do enhance depression to a strong extent but the real problem is that one stand alone side effect of PFS is extreme, life threatening depression in and of itself.

We are biologically not producing the bodies natural anti-depressants to a great extent, allopregnalone and other 5 AR reduced metabolites have been decimated. Nothing realistically changed for me not to be depressed anymore. The sexual sides have not abated and my life in reality actually got a lot harder a few months after the treatment due to exigent circumstances (between myself and the federal government… wait till my book comes out). None the less I do not feel as bad as I did prior to the treatment.

@BP: have you ever thought about trying to get on the Alex Jones radio show?

Not the most credible source in the world but he gets a huge amount of listeners and your case of government harrasssment is the kind of thing he loves.

BP would you pm me your email address?

This site won’t let me pm or email you.

Cheers