Royal Jelly - A tonic to correct your hormone pattern??

Therapeutic Efforts Supplements & Lifestyle
#101

I’m still on it, have been taking fresh jelly, but I am finding it works better taken every other day. I’m a believer in this stuff. I just got back the best labwork I have ever seen. Testosterone was perfect, thyroid numbers were perfect, just about everything was perfect across the board. It does seem to raise testosterone levels. My level was almost twice what it was in my previous lab.

To all of you who are giving up, I think it takes at least 3 weeks before you can definitively say it doesn’t work. Try it for 3 weeks and if you still feel like crap, maybe it’s not right for you. Not everyone responds the same way to certain things.

#102

well done joetz. Very encouraging.
Thanks for updating.

#103

Joetz what quantity r u taking? And any sexual improvements?

#104

Given it’s GNRH, LH promoting actions, I expected the best protocol to be like Crisler’s HCG protocol, about 3 times a week.

Have you seen testicular growth at all? Was testicular size an issue prior to taking it?

#105

I wish more people who are on RJ can put updates here.Also I think to see more persistant results you need to take it for longer period of times maybe for few weeks. May be it has anti-inflammatory properties for brain.

#106

Did it jack your total T up to supraphysiological levels or just to the healthy high-normal end of the range?

#107

What is the tally on how many members saw improvement on RJ (tangible sexual ability improvement)?

#108

Jacked it up to 614
I wish I had a copy of my previous lab because that’s several hundred higher than my last lab

#109

How come the excess testosterone wasn’t converted into estrogen? That’s what i’m wondering. I mean i’ve heard RJ stimulates testosterone production, but is it in any way an ‘anti-aromatase’? I know for example alot of people with testosterone stimulating supplements such as tribulus have found that any gains in testosterone were quickly converted to estrogen, sometimes resulting in gyno. Apparently not the case with Royal Jelly…?
I just got some high quality gelcaps in the post and will start today taking 3x recommended daily dose. Not convenient to use the fresh stuff at the minute but if the gelcaps are in any way a success i’ll probly go for it in the future. Hope i can add my name to the growing list of royal jelly fans! We’ll see…

#110

I won’t be trying it again after i wasted £90 on a huge tub. I can’t see myself getting the same effects i did first time round ever again.

#111

how long did you use and what quantity? dont loose your heart if some people are seeing gains you should see gains too.

#112

I saw probably the best gains on this forum. I felt at least 80% better for a week after taking RJ for the first time. Who is still making gains? nobody as far as i can see.

#113

I think Joetz has seen the best results here. The original poster at ejaculatoryanhedonia.com continues to see good results.

If you initially saw good results, I suggest cutting down the dosage, and using it only 3 times a week. Joetz is seeing better results with every other day dosing.

#114

I think there are two types of gains you can have

You can get better “on paper” where you will see far better bloodwork than before with much higher levels of testosterone. Even things like my vitamin levels are now in line. I have no idea what the mechanism is that makes the RJ raise testosterone levels

Now as far as the “how do you feel” gains go, well even though my labwork is greatly improved, I still felt like crap. Sort of like UK’s situation, a big bump in the beginning and then things pushed back

At the end of the day how you feel is far more important than what a lab looks like. That doesn’t mean this can’t be a very effective tool for us though. The screwy bloodwork doesn’t help anything and putting it right helps make other treatments more effective I think

For example, when I tried neurotransmitter therapy with my hormonal clusterfuck I never made any progress. Now that I am combining neurotransmitter therapy with RJ I have seen improvements.

So basically I would say that RJ is not a cure but it is a tool that can at least help solve a piece of this puzzle

#115

Didn’t that guy suspect that propecia had a large part to play in his sexual problems?

#116

any more updates?

#117

That’s my attitude as well. Get the measurables into a good range (decidedly not just into the reference range) and work from there. If there are things you can measure that you know aren’t good, fix them.

Try things out. Experiment. See what works.

Where I see us really falling down in our analysis is not taking timing into account. We’re dealing with multiple feedback systems that cycle over time and adjust with different time constants. We need to be cycling over time as well, and not just constantly pumping ourselves full of something that initially works, but no longer does when we keep a constant dose in our system. If it worked the first time you used it, maybe it would work again after a month’s abstinence. Or a month. Or a week. Or a couple of days.

I think you’re on the right track with the every other day dosing.

I’ve been trying the freeze dried Royal Jelly from Now Foods. Can’t say that I’ve seen any improvement. A kg of fresh frozen is coming this week.

Ha. Maybe I will be too.

#118

My tub arrived. I’m annoyed at the packaging. Instead of insulating it, they stuck a little cold pack on maybe 1/5th of it’s size. The royal jelly started off frozen itself - would taping a few ice cubes on it really help? The RJ was probably keeping the cool pack cold.

Anyway, the weather out here wasn’t warm, and it arrived cool at least.

So I’m in business with the fresh stuff, and will join the fun. I had upped my dose on the freeze dried to 4 pills a night. I think I was feeling a little bit on the libido side from it.

I started with the fresh stuff at 1/2 tsp today. I’ll probably up the dose. Too impatient.

#119

what is everyones opinion on the pill/gell cap type of royal jelly?

#120

I ordered some of the frozen jelly and should have it here in a few days. If it doesn’t work oh well - only $60 down the drain :mrgreen: