The correlation between 3a-diol G and hirsutism, and the values of 3a-diol G in controls and in PCOS-NH, suggests a cutaneous origin of 3a-diol G. Our results, obtained from a broad series, confirm the clinical usefulness of 3a-diol G as a marker of the peripheral metabolism of androgens. The 3a-diol G dosage can be employed to monitor various therapies for hirsutism.
What I find interesting is that levels of 3a-diol G are independent of androgen levels meaning one can have high levels of testosterone but a low 3a-diol G. Also if one bumps up the testosterone you may not bump up the 3a-diol G. Having said that this
jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/reprint/85/4/1648.pdf says that increasing androgens does increase it.
If you look at maracatu’s results however - viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2763&start=100 - testosterone didn’t make much difference.
It should be noted Adiol 17-G is important too.
endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/123/6/2788
jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/66/1/212
These results indicate that Adiol 17-G is the predominant circulating form of Adiol G in normal men and women and that it is also the major Adiol G isomer derived from DHT.
epirev.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/23/1/42
However, in studies of men treated with finasteride, a 5a-reductase type 2 inhibitor, serum levels of 3a-diol G decrease concomitantly with finasteride treatment, suggesting that 3a-diol G levels predominantly reflect the activity of the type 2 enzyme
cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/12/6/578
The circulating A-diol-g concentration is believed to be a more accurate serum marker of 5 -reductase type II than serum DHT itself, because A-diol-g is the direct metabolite of DHT formed in the prostate gland. However, circulating DHT is largely derived from 5 -reductase type I activity in the skin and is therefore not an accurate marker of intraprostatic 5 -reductase type II activity.
Also the consensus on its function is not confirmed.
nature.com/jid/journal/v119/ … 1659a.html
“Clinically, it is still controversial if serum levels of 3alpha-Adiol conjugates (3alpha-Adiol glucuronide or 3alpha-Adiol sulfate) serve as reliable indicator for cutaneous 5alpha-DHT formation (see later,Lookingbillet al, 1988a;Horton, 1992;Vogt et al, 1992), or are just a marker of adrenal steroid production and metabolism”
So “maybe” its saying serum DHT is a better marker for type 1 activity and type 2 - adiol-g. Most likely adiol 17 g. We should be testing this as well as Adiol-3g.
Now I propose that it could be that due to alterations in gene expression type 2 activity is decreased. DHT produced by type 2 activity has paracrine effects on the immediate tissues surrounding it and exerts its function. However again it could be the androgen receptor not responding to DHT therefore peripheral action of androgens decreases - decreasing Adiol-G. This seems more likely to me as direct DHT replacement would help (although probably not as much as normal production due to the paracrine effects) in the broken 5 alpha reductase type 2 theory.
Just trying to make sense of Adiol-G and its relationship with our systems.
The idea of IGF1 stimulating 5 alpha reductase is interesting too as JN had some benefit on GH - also Xyrem increases IGF1.