Can’t we start a petition where we sign to release the concealed evidence? Share it on reddit, hairlossforums etc. I haven’t even taken propecia, I have PSSD, but shit like this boils my blood. I hate this unfairness. Really, this is the moment to latch on, and not let them get away with concealing this evidence. If this evidence is revealed it would probably be impossible anymore to deny PFS, and it would probably be also good for future funding.
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Thats the Dr I saw and it doesn’t cure it but he helped me some with his TBI protocol…But it was about 5k for all the labs and meds…He is high as hell…Dr Mark Gordon…All it showed was my free test was low and he said it acts low sort of a chemical brain trauma on top of that…He said everyone he’s seen with pfs had a type of head injury previously and believed it predisposed them to pfs…He said it didn’t take much like a broken bone, injury to disrupt nuero steroids in the brain…
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Reminds me of this quote by Bertrand Russell that really gets at human nature:
“If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way.”
The evidence is finally overwhelming. Some of the doctors may try to find some rationale to explain it away, which will be challenging, so it’ll be interesting to see how they respond.
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Does any of you guys have an account on the hairlossforums? It would be a good idea to post these articles there too. They can’t deny it anymore.
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They tend to shame people who talk about PFS those guys have some weird attachment to the drug they would probably just take the post down or something not worth talking to a pile of bricks but that’s just me 
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It would be accepting they will become bald. Rather just believe this pill doesn’t do this shit, at whatever cost, so they can keep their hair.
A comment from this video:
The incredulity is palpable. I didn’t personally find anything shocking about the exposé; I suppose one becomes cynically brought up to speed about these matters very quickly when something like pfs happens to them. I actually expect a multi billion dollar pharmaceutical company to twist, manipulate and massage when trying to crowbar their latest product through the approval process. These companies are beholden to their shareholders and the bottom line on the profit margin and nothing else. The cost of development and approval of a new drug is gigantic. There is no moral imperative from their perspective, despite what their phoney PR messages might say https://www.merck.com/about/corporate-responsibility/home.html (“develop and provide innovative products and services that save and improve lives… operating with the highest standards of ethics and transparency”).
The bigger scandal, really, is the FDA’s role in all of this. As stated, it is almost expected that drug companies would act unethically given that they are a private enterprise with a profit motive. It is precisely the behaviour exposed in the article that the FDA exists to protect us all from. And yet, clearly there were serious failings in their assessment and monitoring of Merck’s trials if something as seemingly obvious as them omitting negative patient data to paint a more positive safety profile of the drug was allowed to happen unchallenged and unscrutinised.
The FDA declined to answer questions about what Merck shared with the agency or how it evaluated specific information the company submitted about its Propecia clinical trials.
Why are they allowed to decline giving this information? They are a government agency, publicly funded. There should be nothing but the utmost transparency from them.
Anyway, this article has caused something of a stir, despite, from my perspective, being the very tip of a very, very big iceberg. If the youtube commenter above is shocked at the details from this article, can you imagine the shock waves the full scale of this disaster being revealed will cause?
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It’s already been posted on hair loss talk. Have a read if you can stomach some of the ignorance and denial.
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The cognitive dissonance is real, jesus christ. They will learn their lessons at one point in life. Vanity will catch up on them, we all get old and ugly.
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Damn it’s really sad to read this honoustly. These peoples their main problem is not dealing with baldness, but foremost dealing with some serious mental issues.
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Yes. They are as much at fault as Merck or any other pharmaceutical company that strong-arms a drug through approval. At one point, a former FDA comissioner called the FDA-industry relationship a “partnership.” A disgusting pseudonym for “collusion.”
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For anyone who wants to see how fraudulent the FDA is, I highly recommend the documentary: Bleeding edge, on Netflix.
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I’m maybe a little more forgiving towards the FDA but it’s not as clear what happened there. FDA commissioner is a Presidential appointee and is a political position as a result. It tends to be under funded and under staffed and Merck has very deep expertise in finding ways to manipulate and deceive FDA. By taking the word “all” out of the label they fooled the FDA into thinking they were making a reasonable change. They didn’t send out letters to doctors as they were supposed to because they knew somebody would catch them and figure out why they changed it. A woman named Charlotte Merritt appears to have been the mastermind behind all of that which you can see if you read the documents.
Don’t get me wrong, this was definitely a regulatory failure and the FDA was supposed to protect against this, but I haven’t seen signals of clear corruption from the FDA. Some irregularities for sure but no smoking gun. I guess it is possible though.
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Kenneth Frazier was appointed CEO for his excellent role as the defense in the Vioxx case. How very convenient.
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U should look more into the FDA. Big pharma is deeply involved in what happens down there. It isn’t so much about underemployment as one may think. Stuff like this happens with tons of things, they don’t care. I really recommend watching the bleeding edge on netflix, u will get a different view on the FDA. They have literally spied on their own employees, because they were complaining about the FDA not doing good work and making mistakes. 2 years after the employees made these remarks they were all fired. Also. The problem here is. We know Merck is a ‘‘bully’’, no big news. But the FDA is like your best friend who should protect you, teaming up with the bully. I really despise them the most.
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I wonder what Merck’s response will be, to fight any law suits as best they can and pay out as little as possible, or something else?
I will do the same. Thank you.
We’ve got a blog out summarising the situation here:
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I am shocked by the response to this news on Reddit. The response appears to be overwhelmingly against Merck, including on tressless, where finasteride is reveered and PFS is denied, as we know. Apparently people didn’t know drug companies manipulate drug data and lie/kill for profit. I find it very strange as I see nothing particularly new or surprising in this news piece. I hope this wave of sudden awareness continues and is picked up by more mainstream news outlets.
Imagine that a year from now we have the Baylor studies released. Backed up by more and more court documents arguing Merck understated how many men got symptoms, and how long those lasted. That is a dynamite combo. Picture where we could be. Think pots of government money going into PFS research. Imagine news about potential treatments.
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