Returning to baseline after Androgenic supplement induced ''micro crash''

Were you at a point where orgasms felt close to pleasureless? That seems to be mine and @Coopers hardest symptom to resolve

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Hmm… I don’t believe that was ever a huge problem of mine

Mines are not pleasureless, sorry. They are fine actually. But still it’s not like the pre-Accutane state. I feel something is going worse and worse through this 4 years of period. (I took it 4 years ago, didn’t notice any problem besides the semen volume) It’s weird that i realized my other problems just now, months ago… im really not sure, even from myself. Thanks.

What are your other problems? All you ever post about is dull orgasms and low semen volume. Do you have a member story?

I have a member story, kind of. Yeah those two are my major problems but i feel like mildly damaged from other aspects too. Today i just realized i have a weak urine stream… its constant but the urine comes out slow and weak. I remember the old times, my urine would splash in to the toilet and i remember me trying to control the stream with my fingers for not pissing all over the room. Now, it just streams easily downwards… i have also loss of morning woods and my erections are not hardrock always. Many times they feel weak… anyone got this weak urine problem?

I took tribulus and actually got worse. Normally it would do nothing or improve my symptoms, its a new brand I was trying so I dont know.

So, did you recover from it? Did you recover to your baseline?
My supplements made me worse, and it looks like even though ive been off for 4 months, i didn’t recover from it… Hovewer, weird thing is i notice my lack of libido and erection quality loss just right now… i mean i used the supplements 4 months ago and my hourglass penis got worse when flaccid, so i stopped it. I didn’t notice any other worsenings, but slowly month after month i start to realize im worse then i was. My erections got softer, libido worsened and i still have flaccid hourglass penis from time to time. My only question is:

  • Is there any chance or possibility that getting worse after quitting the androgenic supplements for months?! I mean if they really made me worse, shouldn’t i notice the “micro crash” on the day of the usage? Why im going worse day by day instead of returning to my standart baseline? Am i stressing myself out or am i actually getting worse even though i stopped taking the supplements 4 months ago?
    Has anyone experienced something like this? Please please! I need serious help on this… :confused:

My post is 3 weeks old. About 1-2 weeks ago I felt very good again, even better than baseline. After that I crashed again.

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Can you explain what these crashes are like for you?

bascially typical pfs symptoms, weaker erretions, sensations, less libido re occuring. Not really a crash in a sense that it occurs overnight, just worsening of sexual functions.

I would say its more the opposite I have a certain pfs baseline which I tend to drop back onto.

So not a sudden change, more a fluctuation of symptoms?

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As for me, yes! It’s exactly what happened to me…
I slowly realized my sexual functions went down. No “crash” feeling. Never experienced sudden changes. My only crash was low semen volume in the second day of the Accutane usage, then i quit. Didn’t experienced anything besides it. However, slowly, after visiting this forums, i realized i had also morning wood loss and more numb orgasms. Also developed flaccid hourglass penis after 6 months of the usage. Hourglass and other things except low semen volume were went away before i took androgenic supplements 3 months ago. For 3 months my overall sexual symptoms gotten worse…

Do you have anything to say about this?

Is this a micro “crash”? Or am i just obsessing about my situation? I want to compare myself with all other severe members here to objectively calculate my own damage. Thanks…

excatly. Only fluctuation of symptoms. Could be supplement related because I usually stop them after initially taking them. But for tribulus I got slightly worse and then after a week I got better.

@Cooper
You should try supplements again. But I cant tell you what kind of supplements. You seem the type who gets worse when inducing androgen or androgen alike substances. Maybe you try aminoc acids o progesteron cream, or get another bloodtest to make sure your testo levels havent gone down.

I screwed up as well with taking a very flavanol-rich cocoa which makes it feel almost like a repeat of when I first withdrew from fin. There must be stories of people who fully recovery from 2nd+ crashes.

Have you recovered from that? If so how? Are you on your baesline again?

Hopeless, what did you use and experienced fluctations? Also have you recovered from that? What kind of symptoms start to gotten worse? Please explain a little.
Thanks.

Its complicated.

After I discovered I had pfs I supplemented ginko+acetyl carnitin, added maca-tribulus shortly after. That did something very weird, I had very often spontaneous erections which is by the way not a good thing, because I got them without even being aroused. During this period I was about 70% pre pfs (which is hard to quess), it wasnt great, but quite good I was able to have sex and it was somewhat acceptable. Then I got worse and I stopped supplementing, started again, got better and so on.
Then I switched to another tribulus, which made me feel like shit again sexual wise, and I stopped. After one week of not taking anything I got better, again feeling even the desire to fuck a woman who was before me in the waiting line. I had very strong hard erections, but numbness was still severe, felt very weird. Then I got worse again.

Then I took betaine, Vit A and Choline, Betaine and I got better. Meaning I got normal erection, almost no numbness, and good sensation, but still low mental libido meaning I only get aroused if I touch myself or if I getting touched by a female. Increased semen volume too, but like water.

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How long you been dealing with pfs

SInce october 2018. In October it was so bad, that I couldnt even masturbate and had 0.1secs orgasm and no semen.

Guys try betaine+choline+cod liver oil (basically animal vitamin A source, way more bio availability than plant Vit. A). Almost no penile numbness and good erection. I dont wanna say Iam cured but Iam the best since crashing in october. Just had really good sex…

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Not yet. It started on March 18th and I’m still messed up ever since. Just going to wait it out and eat carefully for a while until I recover.