I am not even going to taper the finasteride anymore. I am off the drug. I can’t say i am any worse than before, however i am getting a few new non sexual side effects - jaw ache and other pains, which could well be due to further killing androgens. Not good.
Let’s hope this doesn’t put me back even further. I took the risk, so i am willing to pay for it if so. I have no regrets.
It could take months to see the full affect.
As much I find it disburbing to even imagine the thought of someone restarting this poison, I do think that hearing that sides would alleviate even for a brief period of time provides insightful information. It could help pinpoint what caused the larger problems when we quit. I do feel I fall into the camp of those that state that, “It was like a switch was turned off” and I lost several body funcitions.
Boston, unfortunately i think it was quite simply a testosterone boost. I only read afterwards that it is very common for finasteride to boost testosterone levels. So, maybe i went through what many on this forum have been through with TRT. A brief resolution of symptoms and then back in the shit.
When my symptoms instantly started getting better i thought i had pulled something special off for a minute 
I am still very curious as to how it fixed Denarions issue though.
I would forget it and move on if I were you. The drug is simply much too dangerous. I had side effects on the drug that I never imagined were caused from this drug. I had eye issues, blurry vision, eye pain, sensitivity to light and wind, anxiety, sleep problems. I only realized the connection to this drug when I discovered this forum.
My point is, even if you were lucky enough to see some improvement in some area back on the medication I’m sure you would have a host of other medical issues to deal with over time. Furthermore, I doubt you would see any sustained benefit in any area anyway.
What are you talking about? i am moving on. The whole point of taking it again was to come back off it fairly quickly as i have said before. I am certainly back to baseline now, feeling like utter shit.
I did not see this posted here…or this user registered here.
Its UK20 under a different username.
The boy has lost it. Well and truly lost the plot.
just an anecdote:
a french post finasteride sufferer (i know several of them) went on saw palmetto 6 months after quitting.
He said to me: “i felt great during one week”.
These testominies are interesting.
You might think so Sean but what have you done that has improved your condition? have you been able to take a drug and feel almost completely better for a period of time?
Blase - i am thinking about trying Saw Palmetto myself. I am going to try finasteride again first though.
It’s really essential to know how badly these guys are affected though. Did they just have loss of libido/weaker erections? Or a host of other sides plus severe ED, shrinkage/veins, smaller balls etc? I don’t think denarion crashed.
Before this thread, I wanted to point out to you (In a friendly manner) that you post WAY to much on this site. You are constantly glued to every thread that you are surely exhausted.
With the results of the Awor/40/Mew study just around the corner, and the Italian seminar this thursday, the advice was to sit tight, dont move. Wait. Lets see if anything can come of it. But you decide to go back on Finasteride. I dont know how long you did this again for, but I tell you what…I took it for 5 days and Im screwed. I feel insulted that a fellow sufferer would do what you have done.
You should also bear in mind that many got hit harder after stopping/starting fin. I hope this doesnt happen to you.
Now, as far as me not doing anything…this is a marathon, not a sprint. Ive suffered three years and will not do my body any more harm with chemicals or hormones until we understand whats going on. If that takes another 3 years, I know how to wait.
You should take from now till thursday away from this site. Go and do something else, try and get mentally stronger. Then come back.
People have done many many different things that have made them feel good for a week. The fact that someone would mess with Saw palmetto or Fin or Dut again after what we have experienced is beyond me.
Sean, i wasn’t attacking you then mate. I am just saying. I post an AWFUL lot of this forum and others, i know. I am in the process of tapering it down but at the minute it makes no difference whether i post on here or not with regards to my negativity towards this condition.
One thing i will say though is that i couldn’t care less whether you or anyone else feels insulted about me trying finasteride again. It’s my problem. This thread was created solely to inform of my experience. You can sit around and wait for the studies on a medical problem that doesn’t even exist, good luck to you. I won’t come into the threads and repeat the same criticism over and over so please stay out of this thread if you are going to just repeat what MartinM said.
I didn’t even inform the forum that i was going back on finasteride, what are you talking about? i told the forum AFTER i had done it. So there was no advice given.
People on this website have many different trials and errors. Many different views. After the disaster of Solon’s thread I learned that we cant have splits in the camp. That was Lord of the Flies material.
Ok so I said you’ve lost the plot. Thats my shock at what you did. You have stepped out of line in terms of neglecting your own health, and you have disrespected many forum members here. You need your chain pulled. Thats my 2 cents.
Hahahahaha. Disrespecting forum members? why you mad?
I have an excellent diet, decent exercise regime, good social life and prospects. All of that is in place. I just like to have an open mind at the side of all that because i know deep down it isn’t helping. I am open to try anything that has helped others, like it or lump it! i don’t understand why you are so bitter, but fair enough.
I deem this problem as damage to cells on different body areas. We all are not hurt in the same way.some have brain fog only, some prostate problem only ,some have sexual problem only etc.This is clearly have nothing to do with hormones only. If you can think/investigate/research/try stem cell therapy , that might help us.
I have read BBC report that stem cell therapy is bieing tried in UK for sclerosis and Scientist have very high hope that stem cell might repair damaged cells.
Surely it is not cell damage. How could people improve or have brief recoveries if it was?
If you read Alex Miller’s theory on this forum viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2577&hilit=sclerosis
you would agree with many of his points keeping in view our condition.
5ARis shrink prostate, no question here, why ? because of high DHT concentration here. Now why on earth thes 5 ARis will not affect other parts of our body where DHT is expressed in higher concentration? I am pasting following study but sure it is true for finasteride as well. After all we are discovering the lies told by these companies every day.
hairloss-research.org/UpdateSawpalmettopropecia8-07.html
[i]Another erroneous perception is that Saw Palmetto somehow only inhibits androgen binding in Prostatic tissue, and somehow leaves other sites in the body unaffected. The following study shows a reduction of DHT in all tissue specimens evaluated.
Acta Obstet Gynecol Scand. 1988;67(5):397-9.
The effect of Permixon on androgen receptors.
el-Sheikh MM, Dakkak MR, Saddique A.
Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, King Khalid University Hospital, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
Permixon, the liposterolic extract of the plant Serenoa Repens is a recently introduced drug for the treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasia. The effect of Permixon on dihydrotestosterone and testosterone binding by eleven different tissue specimens was tested. The drug reduced the mean uptake of both hormones by 40.9% and 41.9% respectively in all tissue specimens. Since hirsutism and virilism are among other gynecological problems caused either by excessive androgen stimulation or excess endorgan response, we suggest that Permixon could be a useful treatment in such conditions and recommend further investigations of the possible therapeutic values of the drug in gynecological practice.[/i]
Maybe over time our body repairs most of the damage but not every damage.There are some cells which are not regenerated, like nerves, heart tissue etc maybe I am wrong some body with better biology back ground can correct me.