My guess is that there are many more patients using Propecia for hair loss than dutasteride. This would be due to the fact that only Propecia is FDA approved for hairloss which also makes the drug much more well known to the general public since it is illegal for GSK to market Avodart for off-label uses.
As an aside, from an objective standpoint, I find it a bit troubling that Bluecloud (UK20) made up the idea of being on 6 daily pills of dutasteride. I personally have no idea why he would do this but it will certainly lead to additional scrutiny of future posts.
For anyone interested in this whole thing my advice is this:
There is a much safer and probably better way of testing this theory of our bodies being overly sensitive to DHT or whatever. That is, by lowering your DHT via progesterone supplementation.
Progesterone inhibits DHT and estrogen. So in theory you could actually lower DHT without having the classic estrogenic sides that fin gives people.
All that said, i think that the initial “gains” from fin or dut are probably the initial increase in testosterone.
More concerning is the fact that we don’t have anyone on this forum that used finasteride at 5 mg for BPH which is still very popular apparently.
Progesterone is an awesome idea because it has many other benefits too. I wish i looked into progesterone, zinc and B6 and other natural things before using finasteride.
I took 3 capsules of dutasteride last night and i just seem to be at my fairly dire baseline now. Although my mood and motivation are better than usual. At about 2 weeks off i might jump on some Nolvadex to bring down estrogen as hormones return.
That’s a ridiculously simplistic statement from such a knowledgable individual.
Just like bigger dosages of fin is used for BHP whislt smaller dosages are used for MPB, it’s all about dosage and details. Various drugs are used in different dosages for sometimes opposite effects.
My recommendation of progesterone was as a better option than using fin or dut. I haven’t met one guy who exhibits persistent “PFS” symptoms from progesterone…
Furthermore, it’s fin and spiro etc that transgenders use more - im not aware of progesterone being used by that community.
Ithappens used progesterone - he recovered. M81 uses/ has used progesterone. It may be a feminizing hormone but it has it’s place in male hormone therapy.
A list of recent bluecloud87 snippets and comments on them:
Why are you trying to get banned? What’s your purpose for posting here if you don’t care? It appears as if you’re simply seeking attention by trying to be a “bad boy”. Getting banned from a faceless internet forum is not cool and cluttering an information source for people who are truly suffering is a rotten thing to do.
You have suggested that a number of users should try taking finasteride or other 5AR2 inhibitors again because it worked for you temporarily.
Here’s a suggestion, instead of posting random statements in as many threads/on as many websites/under as many usernames as possible so no one can follow you, why don’t you [Size=4]POST ALL OF YOUR EXPERIENCES IN YOUR OWN THREAD ALONG WITH THE SUBSTANCES YOU’RE TAKING.[/size] It would help you build some credibility.
Your timeline is incorrect and not everyone developed the sides after quitting, many people developed sides before quitting. The hormonal surge typically happens around 10-14 days off finasteride and the crash starts about a week later when the hormones are suppressed again. And yes, most of us seem to think that taking this chemical poison again is crazy judging by your lack of support.
I don’t see the reason to be concerned as Proscar is usually given to men of a much older age bracket, an age bracket in which sexual side effects from propecia are more easily confused with the natural aging process. In addition, most of these men may not be as familiar with the internet as they didn’t grow up with it.
Bluecloud, it’s very apparant that you have a problem and are seeking attention. Unfortunately it’s not clear that this problem was related to finasteride…at least before you began to retake the drug. We all have problems or we wouldn’t be here and I don’t think anyone has the time to give you the attention you need.
While I don’t want to drive away anyone that’s been damaged from finasteride, I agree with the multiple members that have suggested it may be better for you to take a break from the forum for a while. You post contradicting statements here constantly and have on multiple occasions recommend very risky theoretical treatments to new members.
Why don’t you take a break while your presence here is still salvageable and come back when you can offer a calmer, more focused, and more rational perspective on your experience?
I would very much like to know if bluecloud is having sustained improvements from re-taking Dut. Does anyone happen to have his contact info (email or else)? If so, please PM me. Thanks.
4 capsules of Avodart left and right now i am feeling 100% recovered. Since waking up at 9 am this morning i have been popping spontaneous erections bordering on priapism every 20 minutes
I am getting a lot of yellow head spots like i would as a young teenager - i am guessing that the Avodart has indeed drastically boosted my testosterone levels.
I am also feeling perfectly normal mentally. No internal tremors, random anxiety, weak legs and other strange symptoms that would usually ruin every waking moment of my life. I wake up and move on with my day like a normal human being.
I will update you all once that i am a few weeks/ months off Avodart. I really do think there is a chance that i have gotten myself better but only time will tell. If i happen to slip back into ‘PFS mode’ after the Avodart therapy then i will consider another 30 days on the drug.
this is speculation… but it sounds like PFS is our body somehow adapting to having the 5AR2 inhibitor in our body… and by taking it again… you are realigning the proper balance that was left damaged… hard to say what will happen when you get off though, there’s so many random theories i’ve read… but this is really, really interesting at looking at the mechanisms taking place… in fact, it doesn’t really explain other theories at all like those involving digestion… this is mind boggling… i wonder what type of scientist or professional would be able to understand this type of data…
