Recovery: Gym, L-Arginine, L-Carnitine Regimen

Hey guys, unfortunately I had to restart my cycle again around 6 days ago because I went for a relatively long walk. It seems as though the no cardio element is relative to the amount of cardio you have been doing during the cycle. For instance, I have been quarantined at home and not doing much walking, therefore that’s why a seemingly short walk interupted my cycle.

I am going to ensure I do absolutely no cardio on this cycle and update my progress here.

@PAS how is the regimen working for you now. Do you have access to good weights and are no limiting cardio activity?

When your cycle gets “interrupted”, do you go back to baseline PFS or have you notice an overall improvement?

When it gets interupted, I maintain feeling in my penis for ~2 more days but penis size decreases. I know the cycle is restarting because it takes the same number of days to return to where I was. For example, once the cycle restarts, it always takes 7-8 days before I can masturbate again. The cycle has restarted for me at least 4-5 times and so I am building an understanding of what exactly is needed for it to work

So far, after about a week, with no change in diet, I’ve gained 10 pounds, all seemingly around my now bloated belly (191 to 201lbs-I’m 5’11). No other changes. I run out of pills in about 2 days, and if nothing happens, that’s the end of my trial.

I will note that at the third day, I did notice my face was oily again, but that was only that one morning and hasn’t been repeated since.

I would say its not working for me. So far I have seen no improvements in feelings.

I do bodyweight here at home. I dont do cardio.

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Hi - Is it 6000mg (2000mg x 3 times) of L-Carnitine & L-Arginine?

Yes that’s it, 6000mg of each split into three doses.

I learned recently that it is very important to buy the pills from a reputable health store. I bought the very same brand of l-arginine and l-carnitine, one set from a reputable heath store and the other set from an online discount store. Although they were both the same brand, the pills from the online store had no effect. As such, I dont think the specific brand matters as much as buying the pills from a reputable health store.

I am now 14 days into the newest cycle and it feels as though everything is back to normal. I contacted several doctors aware of PFS (I found their emails on the PFS foundation webpage). I explained my situation and they said they a permament cure is possible due to the neuroplasticity of cells. In other words, if your body functions normally while on the regimen it might eventually fix itself permanently.

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Just tell us the brand you bought.

I bought the brand solgar from a health store in Dublin. They are working very well. I also bought solgar from an online store called discounthealthstore.ie and they didn’t work. That’s why its important to buy from a reputable store

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Hi,

this thread is very interesting to me since I’ve been working out hard lately in a similar manner to you (6 days a week, heavy compound lifts). I’ve also been taking L-Arginine and L-Carnitine, though not regularly, but I’ve noticed a very significant improvement with regards to sexual functioning, in particular from L-Arginine.

Somewhat disturbingly I’ve had erections that last abnormally long, 30+ minutes, while taking L-Arginine. I think it’s important at least in my own case to start with a lower dose and work my way up, carefully taking note of any adverse effects.

I will be trying your regimen starting today but taking a lower dose than you suggest, perhaps 1.5g of each and only twice per day.

I will try to post feedback if I see any results, good or bad. I am also hoping to see an update on your progress since it’s been a couple of months now since you posted.

Thanks, and hope you’re doing well.

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LOL. Arginine and L-Citrulline did a shit for me, actually on Agmatine but looks also useless :confused:

Of course it won’t do a thing to you if you sit on your bed 7/24 and depressed. You need to workout like psychopath in the gym in order to recover. @Trazohell

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Take your passive mentality on yourself dude. There are up to 10 people who got recovered by only GYM. Did you ever read those posts? Did you know GYM creates new Androgen Receptors and balance hormones?
Good luck to you with your waiting

It was a matter of attitude from the beginning, but people missed that.

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You come here reading that two guys already recovered by this protocol and say this. What kind of laziness is this. I did the same mistake years ago. If i was joined gym when i first took this poison when i was 16, i was already recovered in that same year. I am 10000% sure of this.
Now im not delaying this anymore.
Do you know how painful it is to live with this kind of regrets?

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Passive mentality? I train at the gym dumbo, as do countless others here. Don’t talk to me about passive mentality. If training was a cure, everyone here wouldnt skip a day at the gym. I’m not discouraging anyone to stop exercising, it has its benefits, but you’re completely naive and delusional if you think getting out of this is just a matter of exercise.

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This is very ironic and funny.

Ohh so now one anecdotal report proves that this is some universal cure. You’re not very brilliant are you? I guess all these people that have been here for over a decade just never could figure out that exercise was the cure all along…:man_facepalming:t2:

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"Hi all,

I’ve been exercising regularly this summer for the first time since I’ve been suffering from PFS (around two years now) but I recently took an unscheduled break for around two weeks and the difference in my symptoms was staggering. When I quit, my erections became much improved and the shape and feel of my penis in an erect state returned almost to normal, feeling less atrophied and no longer able to easily fold in half. My armpits started to smell again for the first time that I can recall. During the summer and once before I’ve also been noticing an unpleasant fungal smell, like moldy cheese, coming from my crotch (but no noticeable rash or irritation) which seems to have completely disappeared when I stopped exercising."

@Somchai This post was from this user. There are many posts like this.

Do your research first before claiming “one anectodal” post. There are at least 10+ posts like this in this forum. Outside, more.

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I think you’re just being obsessive (as you often seem to be) about exercise curing you that you got defensive if your naive thinking is being questioned. So I’ll leave it at that.

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You know me? Shut up before you talking shit about me. I make sport and did perlvic floor exersices like crazy!

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