Questions for Chi Podcast

General Discussion
#1

I believe Chi is going to be featured in one of Adam’s upcoming podcasts at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pfsglobal

If you’re unfamiliar with Chi’s story, you can read about it in his topic here: http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5042 To summarise briefly, Chi claims to have recovered from PFS with with a strict and multi-faceted approach, utilising enemas, eating healthily and running. He theorises that tackling pathogens and healing the gut, liver and adrenals is the key to recovery.

As Chi doesn’t visit the forums regularly, I figured it would be worthwhile to set up a topic in advance of his podcast so people can field questions. I personally spoke to Chi for over an hour and found it really useful, so please take this opportunity to ask whatever you need to. I’ll then forward the questions to Adam or Chi, unless they pick them up themselves.

Cheers :slight_smile:

#2

Maybe someone could ask Chi if fasting can kill the pathogens hes talking about.

I did a 7 day fast yet I’m still not cured. Maybe I need to fast for 10-14 days to have any chance of a recovery.

#3

Please read the thread I linked so we don’t go over old ground.

It doesn’t seem fasting was a factor in his recovery.

#4

I’m glad that he feels he recovered. But to be frank - it sounds like a load of Curezone bullshit. Pathogens? Gut bacteria? Enemas? Round and round on the insanity carousel we go. Mate, putting words like ‘utlising’ and ‘multi-faceted’ into your posts won’t increase the likelihood that anyone gets treated through any of this waffle.

How is sticking a tube up your arse going to treat any changes in gene expression which have taken place through putting Propecia in your mouth?

#5

:laughing:

#6

Why do you insist on misrepresenting people you simply disagree with? Look up “strawman argument”.

There is more to Chi’s recovery than sticking a tube up your arse, so how about engaging in a mature, adult conversation?

If it’s gene expression you’re interested in, there’s actually some interesting studies coming out that show how gut bacteria can have an influence on gene expression. In turn, scientists are establising links between gut bacteria and diseases ranging from obestity to autism (http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2013/12/extreme-diets-can-quickly-alter-gut-bacteria), as well as links to levels of anxiety (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/anxiety-head-gut/story?id=20229136).

For the first time in humans, researchers have shown that a radical change in diet can quickly shift the microbial makeup in the gut and also alter what those bacteria are doing. The study takes a first step toward pinpointing how these microbes, collectively called the gut microbiome, might be used to keep us healthy.

The Guardian also discusses here how certain species of gut bacteria influence the activity of genes in the brain.

The human gut contains a diverse community of bacteria that colonize the large intestine in the days following birth and vastly outnumber our own cells. These so-called gut microbiota constitute a virtual organ within an organ, and influence many bodily functions. Among other things, they aid in the uptake and metabolism of nutrients, modulate the inflammatory response to infection, and protect the gut from other, harmful micro-organisms. A study by researchers at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario now suggests that gut bacteria may also influence behaviour and cognitive processes such as memory by exerting an effect on gene activity during brain development.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2012/aug/19/microbes-manipulate-your-mind

Do you think maybe we can create a separate topic where you and THETIGERSHULL can attack me for my ideas and suggestions, so that these threads are not polluted by your negativity and criticism?

#7

:stuck_out_tongue:

Hilarious

Back on topic, surely Chi does not a PA (bitch assistant) and therefore there is no need for this thread

Should people have any questions for Chi surely they can reply to his own thread on here, send him a PM or phone into Adams podcast and ask him questions direct

I too am very skeptical over claims that gut healing, running and diet can cure PFS

#8

From Harvard:
[i]
As evidence mounts that the gut microbiome not only plays a role in digestion but may also affect overall health, Lawrence David, the paper’s first author and a former junior fellow at Harvard’s Society of Fellows who was recently appointed an assistant professor at Duke University, said the ability to manipulate those populations may offer new avenues for treating certain conditions.

Using samples collected by participants, “we saw changes in the abundance of different bacteria in as little as a day after food made it to the gut on the animal-product diet,” David said. “On both diets, we saw significant changes in the types of genes that bacteria were expressing, as well as changes to the metabolic byproducts of bacterial activity — like short-chain fatty acids — about three or four days after they switched diets.”

While the study results show that diet can affect the makeup of the gut microbiome, they also suggest that those changes may have very real implications for human health.

The findings, David said, could point to a day when dietary changes could be used to treat certain medical conditions, rather than drugs or even surgery.

“That’s part of the promise of this field, that we might somehow be able, through an altered diet or behavior, to shape the microbiome to improve health,” he said. “People often refer to the gut microbiome as the ‘second genome’ — the first being our own — but what’s interesting is that this second genome is potentially plastic and responsive to the way we choose to live our lives.”[/i]

news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2 … u-eat-too/

#9

@THETIGERSHULL, as gracious as ever.

My thinking was to give people notice that he would be on the podcast in advance of it being recorded. Clearly there is interest in what he did; his profile topic is 20+ pages long. This is a different type of podcast as it’s an “alleged” recovery story, so I think it’s important to make it as thorough as possible. I really don’t care what your thoughts are to be honest because you just find any reason to attack whatever I do and most people will see that pattern quite clearly.

#10

I think nopecia wants to give some hope everyone, i dont see any bad thing here. Im reading post both of you, Its pointless to argue with everytime with nopecia , you should focus better things instead of that, tiger. At least he tries to help us even if its a little or big thing. This mapping thing was good. We must keep going to work instead of fight each other.

#11

Btw i dont believe gut theory, but this diet worked for chi somehow.

#12

Thanks depressedguy and thanks to those who sent private messages supporting me.

Let’s get back to the topic and see if we can get some questions together.

#13

Ha ha

Oh dear!

Absolutely fucking pathetic

One man and his band… Tut tut

Shaking my head as I write this post

Total fucking joke!

Best of luck to ya you fucking nut job… All support me and suck up to me… Jeez this is worse than playground stuff!

#14

Remind you of anybody here…

#15

Cop yourself on Tigershull.nobody wants to log on here and see agro for Christ sake.
It’ll do nothing for anyone.
If someone wants to post something that they believe will help let them at it.
Id imagine no one is interested in seeing you havin a pop.
It’s a good idea of his in my opinion.

#16

you should bring up the fact that Chi never got a parasite test after he recovered to see if the parasites were gone or not. All he did was find out he had parasites, went on an extreme diet, and then now claims parasites were the problem without even verifying the issue. His proof is to search online and see how parasites can cause all kinds of problems. This is not any proof. If he got a parasite test now and he was clean of the parsites that were previously there, then that would be a different situation.

#17

That’s a fair point. When I talked to him I asked about getting a follow up test, he said he hasn’t had one yet but would do eventually. I guess he feels he doesn’t have to prove anything, but the truth is if he’s right it would change our lives.

I’ll pass this on to him.

#18

id like to know everything about Chis facial changes and if he has recovered from them or not.

please aks chi to talk about:

  • facial fat loss
  • facial jaw/cheekbone/chin-bone loss
  • pale skin
  • colorless hair
  • thicker lips

if he suffered from any of these above, I would like to see the photographic evidence: before fin, during pfs, after recovering pfs… photographic evidence of facial destruction and recovery.

if he fails to provide photographic evidence… i dont believe him to be honest

#19

I don’t have any questions anymore for Chi. Just want to hear his story.

#20

notna, as already stated I suffered facial fat loss/less masculine face. I am not submitting or uploading photos of it, and to be honest I don’t have any either as I decided not to do this because taking photos of your problems does not help you recover.