Question about my cycle and an interesting observation of tribulus terrestris.

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#1

Hi, I’m going to start a cycle soon.

So far I have Horny goat weed, Maca extract, and tribulus terrestris. I want to cycle in at least two more things to “spread things out” a bit so its an effective cycle. Along with this cycle I’ve made a vow to myself to quit smoking/drinking/exercise/be positive and in general get healthy. Can anyone give me the best suggestions for two more “ingredients” for my cycle?

Also, I wanted to make a comment on tribulus terrestris. I’d previously visited this website over the years, and noticed the “recovery section” was cleaned up to only include long term recoveries, and cleansed of “recoveries” followed by retractions after another crash(something that has happened to me sadly). There are only 22 threads in there now, which although depressing also perhaps has allowed something potentially very important to be illuminated. In several threads the “recovered” members have something in common, they mentioned using tribulus terrestris. None really put a lot of emphasis on it, but perhaps they all owe more to this plant than they realize?

I just wanted to point that out, I’m not saying it is a cure but it is interesting to say the least…

#2

Hi,

Are you still on Finasteride?

If not, please fill out the following form in the Members Story section so we can get acquainted with your history:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=371

Thanks.

#3

High dose Vit d3 if you havnt started already. As much as 20,000 iu’s daily.

Interesting observation about tribulus terrestris although its a fairly common supp used by PFS men so probably a thousand of us who took it felt nothing.

#4

May want to add green tea extract (decaffinated). It’s one of the few supplements that I feel helps me, particularly with mental clarity. I’m taking 400 mg 50% polyphenols every other day.

#5

Green tea extract couldnt hurt. Seems to help my metabolism and energy levels.

#6

Decided to just stick with Maca and Tribulus at first so I don’t over do it with chemicals/herbs. On the one hand I’m very optimistic about tribulus based on everything I’ve read but a little afraid I’ll use it too much by not cycling it and lose its effectiveness. Based on everything I’ve read I’m very hopeful, not just in the recovery section which are very encouraging but also based on other things I’ve found googling it like claims it it causes hairloss in amazon.com reviews and some hairloss forum… which is a good sign IMO, and also read somewhere that it increases DHT.

Its only I believe day 4 on trib. Maca arrived yesterday so day 1 for that. Also have been being healthy in general with food and everything else.

I’ll post the results over time. I’m using a generic GNC brands of 1000 MG tribulus and 500mg Maca.

So far a few interesting things have happened. Erections are not difficult for me to get since taking fin, although are difficult to maintain without constant physical touch. Although the erections felt less full, not 50% or anything but never “hard as a rock” like pre-fin. My main problems are a very reduced libido and very mild gynecomastia. Also I’ve dated several women, with terrible results in the bedroom by the way, and have not felt ANYTHING emotionally for them which is strange because before fin I actually had a tendency to feel too much too fast.

I mention this last point because yesterday something unexpected happened not long after taking the Maca. In the past two years since taking fin not only have I lost most of my libido but I’ve had zero emotional sparks with any women despite dating several. Anyways I met this very very cute girl and kept getting this (a bit embarrassing to admit!) butterfly in the stomach and skip of the heart kind of feeling while I spoke to her. I mention this because affection/emotion/love/whatever are just chemical reactions…and for men probably related to hormones… perhaps its a coincident, perhaps not…but maybe its a good sign?

Also another good thing that has happened is that I’ve woke up with morning erections. This has happened before starting this cycle off and on, but its happened a few days in a row now and this morning I woke up with a “pre-fin steel boner” that wouldn’t go away! One last positive thing, although its only been a few days I could swear my MPB is speeding up. In three years its receded very slowly at the temples, but now all of a sudden I THINK its starting to “dig in” to the center tuft a bit and thin it out ever so slightly. Maybe this is positive thinking though, it has only been 4 days…I’ll need more time to see if this is true. I mention this not because I’m upset it might be speeding my hairloss up, on the contrary I’d take this as a good sign and gladly kiss my hair goodbye for my libido back. Lesson learned on vanity god!

These are good signs but unfortunately I have to end on a bad note. Strange enough my libido is the same, it exists but its very low. Getting rid of the mild gyncomastia would be nice, feeling affection for the opposite sex again would be great, and the morning wood is a good sign…but my main goal is to recover my sex drive! Maybe its too early to expect so much, so I’ll remain hopefully and post an update in a week or so.

#7

Right, and you still haven’t answered if you’re on Fin or when you quit if not. Please provide some background.

#8

Theres a lot of activity on this forum. Is that why we get so many random bald lonely men turning up to talk about their penis? This site is for the persistant and devestating side effects of finasteride, nothing else.

#9

About two years(I think, these past couple of years have been a terrible blur) ago I was a completely healthy male in his early 20s who noticed some mild recession in his hairline. So I took fin (proscar cut it up into quarters because I’m poor haha), and continued that dosage for several months. I didn’t have a girlfriend at the time and was preoccupied with other things so I didn’t notice the side effects sneak up on me. Once I realized something was VERY off I went off the “medicine” immediately expecting my sex drive to come back. It didn’t, and the past two years have been awful. No, of course I’m not on Fin. Hell I recently found an old pill up in my counter and I was scared to even touch it to throw it away.

There is a wealth of information on this website and frustratingly almost nothing anywhere else on the entire web, my GP thinks its in my head and I can’t afford to go around seeing other doctors. So I was grateful for the information provided on this website, and since I am going to put these new chemicals in my body anyways I figured I’d post the results and be a guinea pig for better or worse. I don’t really understand the hostility. I only posted my results thus far to add to the information on this website, since information is the only hope of ever beating this thing.

Not sure if I’ll post any further results after this:

At the moment since yesterday the rest of my previously mentioned results remain the same. To be honest I went into taking Tribulus with too much expectation probably. Everything that I read had made me so hopeful, I was expecting my libido to be jump start instantly heh. So far my libido remains the same, although as I said morning erections continued today (pretty useless when you have no desire to use it!).

#10

In that case you should of said “since i stopped taking fin”. Especially if someone asks you to clarify… :confused:
The member maracatu finds his lobido returns after popping a few proviron. Hope that helps. :sunglasses:

#11

thanks, maybe I’ll give it a try if this tribulus thing doesn’t work out.
going to continue on with this cycle, since there isn’t really a point of daily updates I’ll come back once enough time has elapsed and share if anything changes.

#12

Hey guys its been about a month on Maca and Trib.

There has been an undeniable boost in libido (not like pre-fin though), the difference is really incredible compared to where I was . I’m not sure which one is doing the trick though, I’ve been dosing both but I suspect Trib. Near the beginning the libido didn’t get better at all, in fact I thought maybe it was possibly decreasing so I stopped for a week or so. I have to warn though when I took fin I got this throbbing in my testicles for a long time. That eventually went away but after starting these two drugs that feeling is back. Worries me a little bit.

Also some people have said Trib works while they are on it but the effects go away once they stop, and if they don’t stop the body builds up a tolerance to it and it loses its effectiveness. Hopefully it lasts and continues but we’ll see. Like I said a lot of the long term recovery posts have “tribulus” in their thread so I really think there might be something there.

#13

I took maca for 3 days… 500mg a day( i tried taking 1000mg one day and got a horrible stomache ache and diareah) and i felt a huge boost in my libido and my erections were the best they had ever been since stopping finasteride. They felt way better and fuller than when i took viagra. Unfortunately the effect stopped after 2 days and i get very little from it now. I was thinking of cycling a number of things so my body won’t build a tolerance. Maca and Tribulis will be in there for sure. I will take each 1 for each day of the week… So far I’m thinking:

Maca
Tribulis
Tongkat ali
Horny goat weed (if anyone else tries to cycle this make sure to check the ingrediants! Some of the horny goatweed products also include a small amount of maca as well I noticed).

*I really want to get my hands on some Ecklonia Cava extract as well but, unfortunately no nutrition stores sell it here in Canada, let alone even know what it is! I’m a little skeptical to purchase it off the internet.